I don't like the principle of using the DAO assets as a piggy bank to appease players for anything other than anything systemic. With this attitude we will run out of assets at some point and then we won't be there to support the game/team in a real time of need.
I don't think 2500 packs is a big deal, but where do we draw the line? So I'm a "no" just out of this principle but I don't think it going to make or break anything either way.
Fair enough, I think the amount of packs given out is so low it's kind of trivial, but I get it. I'll likely just abstain and see what the DAO wants to do.
What else is the DAO supposed to use packs for if not give back to the community - ourselves? Tis the WHOLE point. We collect SPS rewards within the DAO to give rewards back to the players when SPS distribution ends. If providing jackpot prizes in the form of a small fraction of the packs of that one single set the DAO owns/holds during a time we want to promote the game in the Bull Market....when and what other reason are they being held for??? When is gonna be the "best" time to give out RW packs....never?! as far as I can predict this convo coming up? Just burn them then if ya'll wanna sit and die on a hill of untouched assets that aren't providing usage anywhere at any point in time. Nobody wants to put the money in the DAO to work and gain returns or ever touch any packs for the sake of 'inflation'. This is a card game...there will forever be card inflation, accept that fact and move on. I do get the argument of wanting to use a Modern set instead so they last longer for new players, etc. But not the latter; the DAO is the players, re-investing & rewarding ourselves is part of the whole concept... Anyway, love & light, I just think we have too many sticks up our butts as a whole about everything DAO related that we're not even willing to give back to ourselves at times. More balance is needed. More FUN is needed.
I never said I wanted to burn assets either. I wish if people would claim that I have a stick up my butt, then at least they would read what I wrote.
But love and light back to you!
Reread! You responded too quick, I was re-editing a bunch 😂 I'm not aiming any of that at you specifically but the community as a whole. I said from my perspective that we should just burn them if we never wanna use them for anything, not you. And throughout a lot of pervious DAO issues, I'm just saying we're all so quick to shut things down right away. What did you want to use packs for then one day if not "a piggy bank for the players"/giving back to the community?
No worries. And to answer the last question, they are assets. Assets can be used to support the game/community when its needed. So I don't want to burn them, nor do I want to give them away. I want to add them to our arsenal of assets that can be used to solidify and strengthen our ability to help a) stabilize the game - like we just did with giving the team funds and b) to grow the game.
Just like the team uses Alpha/Beta packs to incentivize behavior many years after they were printed, I too think we can use these packs for the same purpose. But giving them out now when they are very low in price doesn't give out much value, so I don't think its going much if anything at this time. Five years from now it would be a different story.
Ahh nice, yeah, I see where you're coming from there on the long-term perspective! I could very much be behind that ideal as well. Personally I guess where I differ primarily is utilizing them during Bull Run cycles including the current one to help with promotion for new players, etc. So in my mind we use a fraction this cycle, then save the rest for future bull cycles/long-term as well. which won't be for another 4-5 years anyways getting to where your mind is at. Apologies for the delayed response, was taking a break for holiday, hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving ^.^ Apologies for any wording btw that may have felt like I was coming at you specifically, I'm kinda an oddball that thinks from the perspective of the whole and the energy I've seen since being here, so my response was addressing/including a lot of that.
You did fine SR! I appreciate you engaging me and looking at my point of view too. Also I would be ok with giving out more if more people had your attitude and we did it very purposeful with a stated objective AND a willingness to understand the DAO does need to keep assets for the future.
I hope you had a nice holiday as well and thank you again for the engagement!!!
I would 100% keep this assets on us for the future and specifically only for new players. It doesn't matter that the pack is out of Modern. Think of them like a Weatherlight MTG pack. Esentially low value, not useful for Modern or Standard, and still today it costs... * checks the interwebz* $35 USD when its retail value was $2.99 ...
As a side comment I would love to see a Proposal, *any * proposal, that doesn't involve to spend, sell, burn or gift DAO Assets on diverse adventures/projects. Would be nice. One. Or two, even.
yes I'm completely with you @renovatio ... Its refreshing to see that someone else shares my feeling about our assets :)