answering some comments:
"Again, this still affects actual players with smaller alt account/s..."@tjdemigod
i think this will even out.
Yes, it will hurt players with small collection cos they might have higher costs for renting cards, but if this proposal succeeds u will also have higher income in sps to cover the increased rental costs.
that is because if we keep the mass bot farms with low value decks out of the higher leagues, then the sps that the bots earn less will be reallocated to human players.
"Would that be calculated at the rating it 'earns' at (in this case 1899) or at its actual rating?
Ie. an account with 50K of CP that has a rating of 3700. If that account had 65K of SPS would the multiplier be 12 (multiplier at 1900 rating) or 6 (multiplier at 3700)"@axrho
as it is now in this case the multiplier for the rating of 1899 (12x) would be applied.
im not sure what version would be more in favor for the comunity (apply cp cap rating or actual leaderboard rating for calculating rewards).
we could add something like "splinterlands corp may choose whether rewards should be calculated based on cp capped rating or actual player rating points" to point 1. in this proposal if there is significant demand for it.
"Sorry, but this proposal is not effective and will hardly work because the pure cp rent is too cheap..."@bronko
ur proposal is undoubtedly more effective in fighting bots, but it comes with the cost of severe restrictions for players and the whole game economy. the comunity shall decide if wants to burden these costs.
yes, cp rent is actually too cheap, but cost will rise with increasing demand.
"And the cooldown rule does not prevent exploits. Besides delegating, there is also transferring, ..."
yes, thats right. we will change that. thx.
"Your point of removing the level penalty being bad is absolutely correct,that´s why the current system doesn´t work.If they bring that back, bots will rent gold league/max cards again and we wouldn´t have so many gold league/max copies for sale now, because people could still rent them out for a reasonable price.That should have been the proposal."@toxicdiamond
bringing back the old system is also an option, but matt decided to introduce the open leagues. i suggest first to try fixing it and to give it 1-2 seasons. if it doesnt work well, then we can make another proposal to go back to the old system.
"How about, instead of penalizing players for not having the 'proper' level of card- we institute a multiplier based on the level/rarity of the cards fielded?..."@axrho
clayboyn had an very interesting idea in that direction, and we considered to bring it in this proposal, but then decided to skip it for a solution that can be implemented within weeks rather then in months.
"Does anyone know if Yabapmatt supports this proposal ?"@tsnaks
idk, but matt suggested in last townhall to make a new proposal and he sees no reason not to implement it if it passes.
in general:
what do u think about the numbers that are given in the range for each specific league? to low? to high?
some feedback is very much appreciated.
pls be so kind and discuss bronkos proposal in bronkos proposals threat and stay on topic here. many thx :)
On the first point: "the multiplier for the rating of 1899 (12x) would be applied." (the 'payout' rating vs. actual rating)
That's great- will save me quite a bit in SPS rentals!
On the second point: "@clayboyn had an very interesting idea" I would hope that it would be Proportional, Transparent and Equivalent in regards to applying a level multiplier bonus- although, given the history of such things in SPL, I don't have high hopes.
Its the fact that CP was replaced with SPS as it was deemed 'a terrible idea in the first place'. Now you want to bring it back in. If this terrible proposal goes through it would be nice if you limit it to the SPS rewards. Glint rewards don't give SPS like the old chests did so why cut ones chance to grow their smaller account with soulbound cards?
TLDR: As you said, again smaller accounts get shafted.
If it passes, make for SPS only, not glint rewards.
there are saleaeble items in the glint shop. this could be exploited by bots and is my main concern.
Man this is gonna kill some smaller players say good bye to players that cant afford to meet those requirements.