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RE: SPS Proposal: Give Summoners a 3X Production Point Bonus when assigned to work on land

in #spsproposal2 years ago

3x might be better at 2x.

Personally, I think summoners should be factored in. While they are in short supply now, there are new card packs coming and Untamed and Dice will be moved to Wild only, which will dramatically reduce the demand on the U and D summoners. Land gives them a place to still be valuable and give them a demand factor outside of playing. I don't get why monsters are included in the Land model, but not summoners, as in game play, summoners are vital for performance. This should be consistent for land too, where the quality of the summoner + reg/gold provides value - like an overseer for the Land production. To me, it makes sense to have Summoners like plot managers. :)

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To me, it makes sense to have Summoners like plot managers. :)

most of the summoners i would use on land, nobody would listen to anyway. ie vera, contessa, mother khala....waka 🤣

Make crappy summoners great again!!

By giving them more utility you assure the price goes up even higher. Thats a terrible idea. Players need summoners to use, not have them be priced out.

What summoners will they be able to get cheap? Anything that has playing value will still be scarce - everything that doesn't will still have cards available. Why not encourage the more useless cards to be taken off the market?

Thats not how you encourage useless cards be taken off the market. I dont know of any useless cards btw. All youre doing with this is pumping the summoner prices for no good reason.

Look at the available cards for rent from CL - the next set is coming out in a few months. U and D will be retired to Wild. Most people don't play wild. There are already a lot of summoners available for Dice. The only place there is scarcity is in the diamond leagues - new players aren't going to be playing there and none of them are likely to go into the Wild format at all, because the cost will be far too high.

Rather than Legendary bonus cards, they can add a couple extra summoners in for the next set, the mini releases and the quarterly, and then, there is no issue for summoners. If they want to devalue the summoners for gameplay, just add a couple more. Look at how often Lux is used.

Most people don't play wild

I dont think thats true at all otherwise the rewards would be significantly higher since the reward pool is 50/50 between them.

Secondly the cheapest summoner you can buy... theres literally only 350 available on the market. Some other cheapest ones are in the hundreds!
Add more land utility to them you assure theyre all bought out and prices skyrocket.
A big no from me.

theres literally only 350 available on the market.

but 2700 for rent.

I dont think thats true at all otherwise the rewards would be significantly higher since the reward pool is 50/50 between them.

Remember that the majority of the rewards go to the higher leagues and the people who are playing there have been around since the start. They have decent sets.

What is the cost of even buying the key Beta cards to be able to play okay in Diamond? Not to mention the summoners. You think the average new player is going to go in at that level?

185 Lyanna.
192 Malric

Will people buy these knowing they will barely play them, if at all - they are bit players now and new players likely can't afford to buy for the 1 in 300 times that it might be useful.

dont know of any useless cards btw

How often do you use the Untamed Rare summoners?
If you were a new player, is that what you would be buying?
They aren't useless to you, because you can afford to keep them available, even though you likely never use them. For the people who are coming in now to play and win, they won't be buying cards that are barely used.

If you were a new player, is that what you would be buying?

Im buying the one thats cheapest so I can play.

So you don't care if you win or not?

Oh, and the cheapest to play would be in Modern format, not wild - which has more packs coming for it, likely at another overprint, so prices fall again.

Just a thousand new players willing to spend money on the game and they literally clear out the entire summoner market.
Thats how scarce these things are. 3x their PP and see how long they last. The cheapest commons, with lowest PP, with more than a million cards available doubled in price in a bear market because of Land.
3x PP for summoners and these are all gone in a second.

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Or do you think that new players should be buying the dregs that don't get wins?