Playing Statist's Advocate here: Sure individual people can be bad, we just need a reliable system of law to keep everyone honest. Perhaps we could tweak the Constitution a bit and come up with the perfect system. We'd probably have to make some changes on how the voice of the People is heard and obeyed by Government. Assuming we could come up with a system that actually represented what the People want done, that is, it ONLY did what the majority of the People want done, and we had effective ways to insure this and keep politicians honest, wouldn't THAT solve the problems with Government? I think you need to address this to bring the Constitution supporters around. This is the kind of thoughts they have in their head and I don't think they are even listening when you talk about other stuff.
A fine example of doing what the majority wants is ... gangrape. Democracy and majority rule is inherently immoral. If "government" actually represented the people--only doing things the people have a right to do themselves--it wouldn't BE "government" anymore.
The constitution is just fine. It needs no "tweaking".
Problem is that it's pretty much ignored.
"No responsibility for advice not followed"....and like that.
The constitution created the USA's central govt...so, no, its not "just fine". And, imagine that...words on an old piece of paper (which no one living today, or even back then, agreed to abide by) from the 18th century hasn't stopped sociopaths/psychopaths w/political power from doing pretty much whatever they want...
Like I said. The constitution is being ignored.
You can't hold something responsible if you ignore it.
Like I said...words on an old piece of paper that no one ever agreed to be bound by...
Ah Contaire. They DID agree to be bound. It was called a "constitutional convention" and then each state ratified it.
If you have evidence (like a signed contract, sworn statement, or video footage) that anyone living (or dead even) agreed to be bound by the constitution, please present it. If you can prove how other people have the authority to bind me or anyone else to an agreement, please do so. Otherwise just admit you're a fascist authoritarian who has no need for logic or morality.