how is self voting any different than any other kind of voting?
perhaps no one should vote at all?
think of the poor rewards pool!
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how is self voting any different than any other kind of voting?
perhaps no one should vote at all?
think of the poor rewards pool!
Because with self-voting you only take away from the platform, when you vote on others there's at least a chance they feel valued enough to stay, promote steemit because of their positive experience and maybe even invest. Every single cent you vote on yourself is lowering the value of the platform indirectly.
You also don't know what the true value of your content is when you vote up yourself, because you influenced it.
every single cent I vote PERIOD is the lowering the value of the platform directly...as well as every vote YOU make or anyone makes.
you can't have it both ways.
and once again..BOTS..bots can't read, they can't evaluate, they have NO CLUE what something is worth.
yet they vote....more often than people.
bot voting is an order of magnitude worse of a 'drain' than self voting..
Nope, if the bot votes on others it's fine.
The reward pool isn't the value of the platform. The quality of the content and how appropriately it is rewarded is where the value of the platform comes from. There's 100's of thousands of Dollars that can be spread out better to the content creators. $100,000 worth of self-votes is a good place to start reallocating those rewards to people that make the platform valuable.
Nope, if the bot votes on others it's fine.
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The reward pool isn't the value of the platform. The quality of the content and how appropriately it is rewarded is where the value of the platform comes from.
how does a robot determine the quality of the comment when
a...it doesn't even read the post (no view)
b...it is incapable of judging quality to begin with.
Yes that's a big problem too, but there are also people not reading posts and upvote. Even if the post already has 100+ votes and $100+.
But botting is still way less bad than self-voting.
I don't agree
Well, at least you're passionate about fixing problems. That's good.
These questions are answered in the Steem whitepaper.
oh? The whitepaper has been up dated to take into considerations hard forks 1 thru 19?
The white paper deals extensively with the question of self voting.
why was upvote included as the default option (from day one) on the editor?
You'd have to ask the front end developers. Though you seem to be arguing with a straw man. Have you actually looked into the self voting habits of the people in the list? Nobody is complaining about people merely upvoting their own blogs where they put significant effort to provide value.
Why was self upvoting comments not included by default, ever? Look and see what's going on and maybe you'll feel differently.
True. I always upvote my blogs, and never my comments, as per the original defaults I guess.
You can see your vote distribution here, and self-votes percentage here:
http://www.steemreports.com/votes-info/
It's not really about blogs and comments, it's just kind of presumed that people put more effort into top level posts, and if they're putting effort in, it's further presumed that they think it has value.
The issue is the exploitation of the reward pool. In that case a vote is not 'subjective proof of value', it is just a vote to pay yourself from the network's pocket.
what I'm agruing against is why it's anyone's business except for the person doing the voting?
You want more rules and regulations?
this is how you get them.
How the network budget is spent is everyone's business. We're all stakeholders here, it's our budget that's being spent.
You can vote how you like, we can vote against you and we can call you out on your votes.