Good idea, please go ahead and let us know what the url of that service is ;-)
If you can also deal with signup abuse, I could help with claiming accounts.
I actually propose that we split accounts into two kinds: 1. On-chain accounts, 2. Off-chain accounts.
This works for Minds.com, which I believe is kicking our asses right now. At least, they are getting Youtube idols like Tim Pool...
Some things are just changes to condenser rather than the blockchain. Follows, resteems don't really need to cost RCs, and we could have off-chain comments that can't experience financial rewards.
This would allow the wider traffic to engage but still not be fully involved. Its like window shopping, and many people might jump on board eventually that would have been scared away by financial investment requirements.
It is kind of like how Medium does things. There is public Medium content and then the content that requires you to be a paying member to access. After seeing others get $0.08 all the time for just saying "your content is awesome!" maybe others will be willing to cough up some dough for a little STEEM.
Sign-up via FB, yahoo, google...
Abuse is checked by a simple parameter - when those accounts were created. @irelandscape / @stemq made such log-in last year
Don't worry about the abuse, there are no people willing to join :D
They also have no reason to abuse the system with multiple accounts, because economically it gives them no advantage.
Indeed it's simple:
those who want to comment once, @guest_Something_Something, public posting key, let them interact with the platform for free (no fee, no rewards, just a normal, boring internet)
those who want to sign-up can do it with the existing accounts, just like on every other serious platform
Let them join. Once they are hooked, think about the details.
2FA, private keys, how it works, they will learn in a month.
It's wrong to scare them off even before they join
Not true. We have what is called blockchain subsidized account creation and you need what? 5K Sp? 4k? 6k? to create ONE account every 5 days.... real helpful.... sorry but need has to spend his own money to buy new accounts no way around it. unless next hardfork will lower the requirements, but ned and steemit inc were SUPPOSED to be paying for a solution to get rid of duplicates, a SIMPLE way is using what they USED rto use before giving up, reddit accounts with certain karma, or twitter or facebook accounts with certain activity, and yeah that can be abused, but its harder, theres no perfect solution BUT IS NOT OUR fucking jobs @g2g its steemit incs jobs lol typical weirdo response telling teh end user to do the work of steemit inc
There is a reason why you have lost so much money and steem is 40 cents.. dont try to tell me you hadnt wished you had stayed in BTC this whole time instead of steem.... but if @ned had focused on new users things could be different,m who KNOWS how many new investors and developers we could have gotten .... if ned would have spent a few million dollars a year onboarding... who KNOWS how many Millions he could have made....... steem is not in a vacuum
Yall' know what would be better? If it didn't cost so much fucking RC's to create an account in the first place. At this pace, even with the entirety of Stinc's SP ie RC's creating free accounts 24/7/365 they wouldn't be able to onboard millions of new users we are hoping to onboard once the floodgates open.
We don't have transaction fees. Also, every new account has free RC for basic operations. Forever.
Solution is to keep potential users off-chain and onboard only those that will pay for it (literally or just by value added to the chain).
you just lost the game LOPl why not just make a COINBASE account?
HEY I have a solution! Just WAIt for coinbase to add steem like they are about to, then steem users can just use COINBASE to hold their steem, and they can use a third party off chain site to log themin with username and password, no key, no protection from censorship just centralized nodes in control of everything yeah great solution :D
dude you are suffering from "depression sickness" where you honestly believe this is the best its gonna get, so instead of finding a way to feed everyone your seriously considering letting people just duie off, only feed thsoe who "add value" to steem LOl
who teh fuck are we to decide who is going to ultmitaly add value?
Ive seen users like @gigafart who were basically at $0 and i helped support them and because of my and a few others upvotes, they decide dto buy like at one poiunt over $30K USD worth of steem JUST ONE GUY.... I mean this is teh problem... we will NEVER know if we dont take teh chance and yeah a lot of peopel will get duplicate accounts.... steemiut icn ws givingf out free nstanta ccounts in 2017 untill trhey had to have a "waiting list" so SOMEOEN WAS subsidizing it at one point
HF20 has plenty of options but we need @ned or some whale to siupport @pharesim and https://steeminvite.com and @steem.ninjahttps://invite.steem.ninja which coudl expand with a lot more delegation, and more RCS put into steeminvite by @steem@steemit@xeroc@thejohalfiles etc whales who MAY or may not have some SP undelegated to use, very few whales left have undelegated fresh SP to use but many do and we can take advantage of that,a nd startr handing out steem accounts to KNOWN REDDIT users and start with handing teh accounts ouyt to known social media influencers and let THEM hand out the accounjts to their followers etc
Dead on accurate. They should be calling up all the Youtube big names, the Twitter journalists, actors/musicians and just say straight up that each of them will get an automatic free account with 50,000 SP delegated to them.
And we have them. This was included in hf20
When I say free, I mean:
Good idea, please go ahead and let us know what the url of that service is ;-)
If you can also deal with signup abuse, I could help with claiming accounts.
Spoiler alert: it's not that easy
(how would you handle resource consumption?)
I actually propose that we split accounts into two kinds: 1. On-chain accounts, 2. Off-chain accounts.
This works for Minds.com, which I believe is kicking our asses right now. At least, they are getting Youtube idols like Tim Pool...
Some things are just changes to condenser rather than the blockchain. Follows, resteems don't really need to cost RCs, and we could have off-chain comments that can't experience financial rewards.
This would allow the wider traffic to engage but still not be fully involved. Its like window shopping, and many people might jump on board eventually that would have been scared away by financial investment requirements.
It is kind of like how Medium does things. There is public Medium content and then the content that requires you to be a paying member to access. After seeing others get $0.08 all the time for just saying "your content is awesome!" maybe others will be willing to cough up some dough for a little STEEM.
Sign-up via FB, yahoo, google...
Abuse is checked by a simple parameter - when those accounts were created. @irelandscape / @stemq made such log-in last year
Don't worry about the abuse, there are no people willing to join :D
They also have no reason to abuse the system with multiple accounts, because economically it gives them no advantage.
Indeed it's simple:
Let them join. Once they are hooked, think about the details.
2FA, private keys, how it works, they will learn in a month.
It's wrong to scare them off even before they join
its called https://steeminvite.com and @ned using @steem and @steemit RC mana he can create 5 million accounts a year but you must not have known that?
Not true. We have what is called blockchain subsidized account creation and you need what? 5K Sp? 4k? 6k? to create ONE account every 5 days.... real helpful.... sorry but need has to spend his own money to buy new accounts no way around it. unless next hardfork will lower the requirements, but ned and steemit inc were SUPPOSED to be paying for a solution to get rid of duplicates, a SIMPLE way is using what they USED rto use before giving up, reddit accounts with certain karma, or twitter or facebook accounts with certain activity, and yeah that can be abused, but its harder, theres no perfect solution BUT IS NOT OUR fucking jobs @g2g its steemit incs jobs lol typical weirdo response telling teh end user to do the work of steemit inc
There is a reason why you have lost so much money and steem is 40 cents.. dont try to tell me you hadnt wished you had stayed in BTC this whole time instead of steem.... but if @ned had focused on new users things could be different,m who KNOWS how many new investors and developers we could have gotten .... if ned would have spent a few million dollars a year onboarding... who KNOWS how many Millions he could have made....... steem is not in a vacuum
Yall' know what would be better? If it didn't cost so much fucking RC's to create an account in the first place. At this pace, even with the entirety of Stinc's SP ie RC's creating free accounts 24/7/365 they wouldn't be able to onboard millions of new users we are hoping to onboard once the floodgates open.
Typical Steemit logic :D
Analogy, thirsty man in Sahara. It's fine, we have invented water pipes, so you can drink once you are at home :D
We don't have transaction fees. Also, every new account has free RC for basic operations. Forever.
Solution is to keep potential users off-chain and onboard only those that will pay for it (literally or just by value added to the chain).
you just lost the game LOPl why not just make a COINBASE account?
HEY I have a solution! Just WAIt for coinbase to add steem like they are about to, then steem users can just use COINBASE to hold their steem, and they can use a third party off chain site to log themin with username and password, no key, no protection from censorship just centralized nodes in control of everything yeah great solution :D
dude you are suffering from "depression sickness" where you honestly believe this is the best its gonna get, so instead of finding a way to feed everyone your seriously considering letting people just duie off, only feed thsoe who "add value" to steem LOl
who teh fuck are we to decide who is going to ultmitaly add value?
Ive seen users like @gigafart who were basically at $0 and i helped support them and because of my and a few others upvotes, they decide dto buy like at one poiunt over $30K USD worth of steem JUST ONE GUY.... I mean this is teh problem... we will NEVER know if we dont take teh chance and yeah a lot of peopel will get duplicate accounts.... steemiut icn ws givingf out free nstanta ccounts in 2017 untill trhey had to have a "waiting list" so SOMEOEN WAS subsidizing it at one point
HF20 has plenty of options but we need @ned or some whale to siupport @pharesim and https://steeminvite.com and @steem.ninja https://invite.steem.ninja which coudl expand with a lot more delegation, and more RCS put into steeminvite by @steem @steemit @xeroc @thejohalfiles etc whales who MAY or may not have some SP undelegated to use, very few whales left have undelegated fresh SP to use but many do and we can take advantage of that,a nd startr handing out steem accounts to KNOWN REDDIT users and start with handing teh accounts ouyt to known social media influencers and let THEM hand out the accounjts to their followers etc
$STEEM on coinbase? Link to a story?
it was on coinbase blog and twitter etc
https://steemit.com/steem/@therealwolf/let-s-get-steem-on-coinbase
https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-custody-is-exploring-a-range-of-new-assets-e700496844be
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Dead on accurate. They should be calling up all the Youtube big names, the Twitter journalists, actors/musicians and just say straight up that each of them will get an automatic free account with 50,000 SP delegated to them.
this is true! so that the added value steem we need new active users
They already gave us fast free accounts once. :)