I hear about more and more users being deterred by this so called "defence (sp?) league", so, I have a solution to oppose their harmless flags.
If you've received a flag from these morons, please comment with the account that flagged you so I can add them to my hit list.
Thank you!
Known accounts:
@goidt
@calipsuy
@bitosanusos
@pequenacapa
@johnrevelator
@astalavasti
@jupitersaturn
@estellereuh
@donaldducky
@steemprovider
@christisthebest
@dervuptli
@trucmipo
@icebergbitos
@marcfrelon2
@stormstblogger
@bestwebmaster
@poustackiev
@jeanmarlo
@steemtwitting
@vladimirtopiev
@charlesbiters
@topfrsteemer
@crigmarlo
@fongopot
@dertluc
@magasintop1
@geradunlo
@worldsteemian
@cosmosteemer
@nice-steemer
@jeanmaloro
@numerusclosus
@cleversteem
@superlove
@botmaxu745
@kissmylips
@carolusmagnus
@zartyo
@biendanstoncul
@hilonrima
@ytcomcenter2
@baissetonfroc
@treedain
@velomasty
@a-cmsidl
@aloader
@a-steemdefleague
@astipmonkey
@azobifly
@besttopsteemer
@camillesteemer
@foodstreem
@ilikesteemit
@mybestnews
@oiepassive
@steemittopfan
@strumo
@trollshunter
I got two mosquitoes yesterday...
@christisthebest
@dervuptli
but im sure the list is ten times longer. They had a microjob listed at microworkers.com paying 5 cents per completion. So basically Camila Steemer, has an army of people abusing the Steemit Inc Faucet.
I'm going to reach out to microworkers and have them ban that type of gig.
I already added @dervuptli to my blacklist ... he'll be 100% counteracted for now on ...
I will also add everybody @berniesanders listed in this post. My bots should be counteracting them within the hour ...
Your help isn't needed here. I've already got it handled. Save your limited VP.
"Allllllllllllrighty then!" ~ Ace Ventura
Your intention is well received regardless :)
Yes, it is.
@berniesanders you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!
I just posted another one as a reply to bernie, but just in case - this guy made 371 down votes today.
@alandirlo
Thank you for helping stomp out this stupid behavior.
@fulltimegeek I wanted to thank you for your support. I noticed that you are supporting my content and I am very humbled by that, It means a lot to me.
Tried to reach you in Discord and Steem Chat but couldnt find you there, so I thought I could do it here.
Again, Thanks!
You can only find me on the blockchain :)
My pleasure!
Everyone look at @admiralbot comment so everyone can see the big list from @steemflagrewards.
Hi, my friend, excellent work, it's good that you are from vuelt, if you can support me with a vote
@berniesanders you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!
I'm late to your post. I hope you are still fighting this. Here is one that made 371 downvotes today.
@alandirlo
Thank you for helping us.
here is another one for today @danstoncul
thing is they are not posting. I wondered about that microjob listing.
most of those accounts have a steemit user in their profile description. I believe it's just to frame them (most probably) but if that's a microthingy thing idk.
@altrei - created 2018-07-15
I just noticed these two: @marcfrelon2 and @jeanmaloro
http://steemreports.com/incoming-flags-info/?account=battleaxe&days=14
here's my bag of tricks, waves to the Commies
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self aggrandize UV for INFLATION
have a nice day
namaste <3
I noted 17 of them about a month ago - https://steemit.com/steemit/@remlaps/steemit-sp-delegations-powering-an-emerging-downvote-botnet
They were: marcfrelon2, stormstblogger, steemtwitting, vladimirtopiev, charlesbiters, topfrsteemer, crigmarlo, fongopot, dertluc, magasintop1, geradunlo, worldsteemian, cosmosteemer, nice-steemer, johnrevelator, jeanmaloro, velomasty
For every bot that helps, I see 50 that are disgusting. Has steemit thought about banning bots entirely? Is there Money in flagging? I am new enough I am still learning. It seems like flagging should cost a little money, to reduce those flags to only the most important ones. Maybe the first couple are free, then they begin to cost more. After ten flags, it should get expensive!
Flagging does cost voting power, the equivalent of money. Flag are an important part of curation and people also need to understand just as anyone has the right to upvote you they also have the right to downvote you. :)
These flags are only a matter of hurt feelings, and actually, I hope they do some good by normalizing a few flags.
Most people on steemit will never understand how it all works. Ask @berniesanders.
Inflation is the name of the game. On top of the normal inflation, there is something like virtual inflation of the reward-pool 1 + 1 = 2.
;) b i n g o
I agree with this if someone is using their own stake. However, the accounts I noted were all using 14.9 Steem delegations from the steem account when their own stake was just 0.1 Steem. I don't really think that Steemit should continue to sponsor accounts who use their initial delegations in this fashion. (I haven't checked recently to see if those delegations have been revoked) In fact, I think Steemit should have an automated routine in place to identify possible anti-social flaggers and bring their delegations up for review.
Also, even if someone is using their own stake, I don't think there's anything wrong with the community taking note of accounts who are flagging in an anti-social way. It's all public information. If you enter a downvote, you do so with the understanding that the action is recorded on the block chain in public view.
I agree with this:
You make a good point regarding using steemit, inc's delegation to flag. I hadn't considered that part.
Still, I feel it would be a good culture change to teach new users that flags happen and are a normal part of life on SteemIt, instead of reinforcing the idea that flags are bad and wrong and should envoke a negative response.
They are just a tool for curation and can be used as often as upvotes.
I do appreciate the points you make.
I have found that if people are hurt by what people write, there is usually some truth to the comment.
Normal flagging is okay, but this Turbo Flagging on Steroids concerns me. That is way past what flagging should be!
:(Flagging is just exercising one's influence. I think the system would work better if everyone accepted there are no valid or invalid reasons for flags.
:) I agree some flags are dumb and hurt feelings, but this is how it works.
Posts are open for 7 days, endusers of any size can upvote or downvote for any reason.
Whatever you have left at the end is what is yours.
That is how it works. Which is why I think this round of flagging might be good, so that people get over the strong reaction.
If feelings are a benchmark... it’s better to disconnect and stay offline. ;)
I have looked at several pages/that are flagging. They have no posts, and they are (25) just starting out; so it looks to me like someone started these pages, in an effort to attack someone else, from a hidden position.
Yeah. That is what they did. One does not have to choose to be bothered by it though.
I joined in July/2016, and the topic of banning bots has been raised repeatedly for the entire time that I've been here. As I understand it, banning bots is impossible, or nearly so. Humans can interact with the block chain at the command line level without using the web site interface, so there's no way to distinguish between a human at a keyboard or programmatic command entry.
Decentralized recaptcha has been suggested, but I don't think the capability exists now, and I sort-of doubt if it's even feasible. Personally, I think that in the long run the good that bots do will outweigh the bad. After-all, things like "Google" and "Facebook" are nothing more than gargantuan Internet bots. Banning bots would just make it harder for entities like that to emerge in the Steem ecosystem.
As @whatsup notes below, flagging is already discouraged by the incentive system. Downvotes reduce voting power at the same rate as upvotes, but they pay 0 curation rewards.
My big problem with these particular accounts wasn't that they were flagging, but that they were doing it mostly with Steem Power that was delegated by Steemit, Inc.
It is hard, but I still think there should be a balance. If you downvote but never upvote, it should push your value down. You are right, steem does hand you a functional package. They are just using that gift on the dark side.
Small people, but there should be some kind of censure, for this poor use.
didn't get the point but few of the tards here.
https://steemd.com/@vladimirtopiev
https://steemd.com/@botmaxu745
https://steemd.com/@poritoza
https://steemd.com/@hilonrima
they are downvoting a month old post :facepalm:
Your relentless efforts are appreciated.
Here is my list so far:
@cleversteem
@superlove
@botmaxu745
@christisthebest
@dertluc
@guiltyparties & @themarkymark compiled a list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgQRvRVXzpBXgAr7vsbWe92fSpeFu_Xc9JR3-tJEanM/edit?usp=sharing
and we can't append :|
Those fake ones are hilarious..
I am sorry you wasted your vote on me... 😖
@soma909 you were flagged by a worthless gang of trolls, so, I gave you an upvote to counteract it! Enjoy!!
Sorry, but I won't be upvoting you in the next days or weeks. I still don't know when I will be able to resume Steeming.
There was a reason: You're a douchebag who thinks he can talk shit about me and get away with it.
You brought this on yourself motherfucka.
@trucmipo and @icebergbitos
@stormstblogger
@bestwebmaster
@poustackiev
@jeanmarlo
League of extraordinary retards
I got some accounts to share that i believe are part of the league.
@numerusclosus
@trucmipo
@velomasty
Thanks to GINA i was able to find these easily again lol
@kissmylips
@carolusmagnus
@zartyo
@magasintop1
https://steemit.com/@altrei
https://steemit.com/@kissmylips
https://steemit.com/@zartyo
https://steemit.com/@topfrsteemer
https://steemit.com/@steemcorrect
There are some troll accounts that flagged my posts, but they never make a post, only downvoted everyone like no tomorrow(these accounts downvoted more than 100 posts per day) :
https://steemit.com/@baissetonfroc
https://steemit.com/@velomasty
No idea if these accounts are feces leagues or just troll.
Received a few flags from these maggots recently, please deal with them in a swift and harsh manner @berniesanders - as always, love your work.
@biendanstoncul
@ytcomcenter2
No post yet from this one:
https://steemit.com/@gladiatorwork
Only 16 days on, this one has been busy.
https://steemd.com/@usertelor
A couple more for the fire:
@qsedtylo
@zartyo
@poustackiev
@topfongo1
@hilonrima
Yep both of these ...
@dervuptli
@steemtwitting
The little speck of a nobody @treedain is going full flagtard.
i clocked this one a couple days ago...@ytcomcenter2
what does the mass tiny downvoting achieve from the account holders perspective?
ditto @ytcomcenter2
I got a flag from these 2: @jetenculeprofond and @treedain
Thanks a lot for this, @berniesanders. They are silly and harmless flags, but like mosquito bites, very irritating. And then of course, they convey a very negative behavioral culture within the system so getting rid of them is a good thing.
Here are some two which stung me!
@nice-steemer
@charlesbiters
I should be able to add me when i encounter them. Thanks a again.
EDIT
Here is another one just threw his silly flag a few hours ago
@jetenculeprofond
I got hit by "@crackboom". Don't know if that was a real and serious flag or not.
Edit:
Well... It was not a real and serious flag. Waste them! :D
Great!
Now, my little minnow counter bots can take it easy. Here's one the SDL hit.
https://steemit.com/abuse/@randohealer/sdl-botnet-downvote-randohealer-report-2018-07-11
Apparently, they didn't take too kindly to our countering their votes.
Thanks to @lyndsaybowes, @ragepeanut, @kaliju and @battleaxe for the delegations.
Let me know if there is anything technical I can do to help.
List of Active SDL , also known as Phishers Accounts
Here, New One
https://steemd.com/@topmaxsteem
https://steemd.com/@steempioneer
https://steemd.com/@jupitor21
https://steemd.com/@cyberdroid
https://steemd.com/@steempohu
https://steemd.com/@coolanalp
https://steemd.com/@friendtoppriest
https://steemd.com/@fushcarbon
https://steemd.com/@carolusmagnus
https://steemd.com/@fertipo
https://steemd.com/@dertluc
https://steemd.com/@sucemabite
https://steemd.com/@trollshunter
Here is one to add to your list!!
@steemtwitting
here are 2 more, sorry if they have already been called out
@jupitor21
@cyberdroid
Simple! I'll add them to the blacklist I used to counteract Haejin and his squad.
YW Steem ...
One purpose for these bots - impersonate an honest steemian randomly flagging other unsuspecting accounts, who then think that they were innapropriately flagged by the impersonated account
See @cleversteem - impersonating @calluna (an honest steemian)
"Calluna flag bot (25)
Calluna flag bot for spammers"
100% fake
Thank you so much for bringing this one up, I get flagged like crazy by this guy with the many accounts, I can deal with the dust flags, but the cleversteem bot with my name on is doing a lot more damage. I get flags from real people, and most days wake up to an irritated message on here or discord from someone who thinks it is me and it is just so disheartening.
Hello my fun friend @berniesanders. I haven't made a comment on your post for almost a year but I want to let you know a couple more flag machines that have been my way:
This is @superlove and @jilophu
Superlove's blog says he is the bot of @johngreenfield but it seems the bot is an imposter.
There is some relation to @kkb031 and @koshin.
I can assure you @mineopoly, they are not owned by me but by the same user as the rest of the accounts on this thread. I have my account, and my account only.
I have a fairly comprehensive list of 85 accounts if that's of any use @berniesanders
Thanks. That helps. You didn't seem like the type of person to do that.
I so got flagged for unknown reason because all my posting have source.. May be the bot created for conspiracy and other user angry to you and down vote your post.. I don't know
Haha ok this is interesting.. are you like insecure about having competition and losing your position as steemit's number 1 flagger
You realize I don't just flag random people, right?
@berniesanders I try to Find it's solution thatt why it's done like that, so
When you first begin on Steemit, you'll see this score move rather rapidly because of votes you get on posts and remarks. Sooner or later, you'll see it taking more time to get to the following level.Since Steemit rounds this score to entire numbers, it might be useful seeing this score down to the first........!
baissetonfroc
stormstblogger
@treedain
@velomasty
@marcfrelon2
@berniesanders The worst thing to do in Steemit is this flag, if you can flag at my post after knowing, my reputation will be reduced, if you can solve this problem then steem users have told you so much thank you
Found some:
@topmaxsteem
and
@altrei
@petitzob
Thanks for helping out they've been everywhere
yep 3 or 4 times in the past few days..i would flag them back but they dont have any posts/comment :(
15SP....LOL
So there some people on here who their job is to report you and spoil your reputation for nothing?. Enlighten me
Will mute on their account help? I am not worth flagging, but if everyone mute selected their account, would that help?
No, they do not post.
Okay, I thought you had to post, to be on Steemit. That way you can't flag them either, that is unfair!
>:(Many people use this to identify people who have made arguments of a certain kind for later reference. The person was probably telling you that many people have "flagged" you in this way, suggesting that they will ignore your future comments, since they will immediately link your post to whatever it is that you said.
While I appreciate what you are doing, I think normalizing some flagging on the site is also a good idea.
Minnows need to learn sometimes you get unexpected upvotes, sometimes you get unexpected flags! :)
Thanks for helping sooth the bad feelings though!
That's very true. Maybe I'll only oppose the flags on accounts with a maximum rep so it doesn't deter the new users who may not have been around long enough to understand how things work.
This one in my latest post.
@superlove
Great work!
Recently got flags from
@crackboom
@fushcarbon
Not sure about the rest. Those 2 I noticed.
I often get a flag from a new account. and I've contacted them on discord. however, they say no harm. I think this is very potentially bad. I appreciate the answer @nextgencrypto. maybe our neighbors told the nextgencrypto loss the attitude.
I was flagged by @niquetarace, @charlesbiters, @cleversteem some days ago. There are many such bots which are doing this. Is there any permanent solution of them? This is happening again and again.
Those accounts cannot be downvoted which have never made any post or comment. Why steemit letting bots to downvote others? I think bots should not be allowed to downvote till they, make any post or comment.
I've been flagged buy 3 accounts one of them said I was abusing the system after i got an upvote from dlive. None of the accounts had any stream power to affect my post. But like like just because i got an upvote from dlive I get downvotes?
@usertelor this it the account but no steempower so it doesn't do anything i'm just like wtf.