Right, when you can't get 100 people to upvote a post encouraging people to manage their own votes, you're going to get enough votes to correct a bernie, or a grumpycat? Good luck with that. If you figure out how, please share.
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There are whales out there upvoting themselves to $300+ and you are concerned with someone that voted themselves to around $30 and got another $14 from their followers...
Anyways large pools of voters do go after and attempt to counter whale votes, some go after grumpycat, some go after bernie, and some go after others. The problem in most cases isn't that people don't want to vote, its that some groups of people are dumb enough to say "Flagging is violent and stealing" which convinces many that it is evil when it isn't. Maybe if people were educated, from day 1, that voting on something, up or down, is something they choose to do. If they think that a post is overvalued to negatively vote it and if its undervalued to positively vote it, as well to accurately teach them about curation (a lot of things I see still tell people to vote on posts that are valued high because they are more likely to gain curation rewards) and so much more... then when they do learn the truth about these things they feel cheated.
Ever thought that those posts encouraging people to manage their votes just weren't that good and didn't deserve that much for rewards, in other peoples eyes? Like there are so many reasons why people do and don't vote stuff, and quite often they are more likely to vote on controversial issues where you can get their heart into it, like say some user is raping the reward pool (gets a lot of people triggered enough to go vote)
Play your articles to the crowd.
Maybe this argument will make more sense if I use my main account. I'm not a beginner here. I've been around a while. And yeah, I'm concerned about vote buying.
The top trending articles in nearly every category are further enriching those same whales, there are two up there today, at least, that have over $300 in votes purchased, and it's 17% of the total prize pool being awarded to purchased votes, so, yes, And that whale profit can't be downvoted.
Well Grumpycat has gotten many of the major bidbots to change to the 3 day thing, which while doesn't solve the problem does give us a lot more freedom in flagging trash posts that don't deserve rewards. So while I may not be able to convince a bidbot to change on my own, some people (and groups) can bring about change.
I agree with that, but without reigning in the "reward laundering" where the whales do not subject themselves to scrutiny through self-voting, the bottom of the platform and the top of the platform will continue to grow further apart as users see buying votes the only way to succeed.
Well we just need more users that go and rise without the use of vote buying then.
I mean why not show users that it is possible to get bigger without the use of buying votes? Though the little users buying votes might spend 5-10 steem/sbd a week, they aren't really the ones getting the $300-600 payouts in trending
Well, I've been working on that for two years. But, since the bid bots started, it's been damn near impossible to get votes, even from long time supporters.
Another part of that equation, is that those $5-10 a week customers are driving demand for delegation leasing, leaving the active voters with little to no vote value, with the impression they will make bigger returns from renting to the bots, while the bots just rob all the other voters of curation rewards because of superior SP.
Hence why I stopped using.
1: The ROI for the user is too small
2: I was getting larger upvoted from curation groups and friends that I made... Since I stopped my SP has grown by ~60% (I was at 1000 SP and now I am at 1600) and that was a few weeks ago that I stopped so I mean it is possible to grow without the use of bots.
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