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RE: A Pragmatic Approach to Combatting Bid Bots

in #steem7 years ago

I guess if we're talking a Steemit where we have to have any kind of bot, the 401C3 subscription bot would be my choice. I'm going to be that guy, though, who holds out hope against all hope (we're talking the stupid odds kind) that humans can regain the platform.

We need a Neo (one that doesn't die at the end of the trilogy, preferably).

If we have better curation, do we get better posts? If we get better posts, do we get better curation?

It's the classic chicken or the egg conundrum. Where do you start? Where does it make the most sense.

I think you and I have had this discussion before. I'm on board with your earlier assessment that we need to better incentivize good behavior. I'm still looking for the answer, but I think I might have found a lot of it in abh12345's curation and engagement leagues.

If a lot more people knew about them, I think it would do a lot of good. I've already noticed it helping me in that I'm looking outward much more than I was. I don't know how much it's helped with rewards, but I could also be smarter in how I go about things, too.

Anyway, my $0.02 for the night, for what they're currently worth. :)

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Currently worth a lot more than $0.02 I reckon :)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I share your sentiment but the inner pragmatist (or cynic) says there is a strong profit motive here and automation is an efficiency that is hard for humans to overcome. All systems are flawed, which is why they need to evolve along with the participants who try to use them (or game them for advantage)

I am also a big fan of @abh12345 and his curation leagues. I was a regular Top 3 performer before the peg broke. He does a lot of good work unacknowledged, but it is guys like him with a bit of vision that give us at least a slim hope for the future.

Just got through reading the steemitblog update on Hivemind and communities. Sounds like they're nearing completion on v. 1.0. Didn't give an exact date for implementation, though. Have you seen the update? I noticed it mentioned something about community bots. :) I of course rolled my eyes.

I have to admit, I don't follow a lot of that type of stuff. After working in software development for decades I am very wary of holding out hope for vapour-ware that over-promises and under-delivers. I'll have a good look at it when (if) it comes out. In the meantime I like to work with the tools available rather than sit and wait and hope :)

Sounds like the best attitude to have, really. People who have been around much longer than me have been waiting for it for a year (or at least knew that it was in the works for that long).

I'm sure there will be 'bugs' to work out regardless, just because there always are. At any rate, I thought I'd point out that it appears bots will be be part of the code when this drops, at least to some degree.

Not sure what community bot is supposed to mean, other than it sounds like something communities would use and potentially benefit from as opposed to something an individual when only access, like what predominantly happens now.

If they can solve issue around holding the master key for community bots and have it held in escrow that would be great. But on skimming it, it just looks like a new API for existing functionality.

That sounds right. I think dragosroua's post about it came to the same conclusion, though he said he'd have to see the API in order to know how it's implemented.

Lots of potential changes to make things better or create havoc and greater discord (and I'm not talking about the chat kind). 🤔