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RE: Founders of Steemit; Dan and Ned in a LIVE interview with Alex Sterk from Blocktalk - Friday 10pm EST

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If you downvote a post, there should be a reason other than not agreeing on the statement it makes. The curation is used to bring up "good" content, which is not defined by political or philosophical measures.
Nobody will complain when you downvote spam or plagiarism.

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re: "Nobody will complain "
Oh, but you're very wrong.

QUOTE from someone I did that to, who was trying to post mirrored duplicates of archive.org content on steemit:

"This is my post. My link, to a page I find interesting. Stop Trolling ME. Your political moderation downvotes and passive extortion arent healthy"

Someone else was doing same thing. They authored an article on small "news" site, and then copy/pasted a duplicate here, so they could get advertising credits there, and steemit dollars here, so I wrote:

:" So if I go to my blog, and just copy/paste all my articles I've written over the last 3 or 4 years, that should be fine too? I'm wondering if Google won't care if we just duplicate content all over the web?"

Someone else showed up and said:

" Go ahead - it's been done by others and not at all frowned upon."

Go ahead - it's been done by others and not at all frowned upon.

That was me. An author posting his own work is not plagiarism. It's one of the intended uses of this platform.

It's not plagiarism. However google frowns upon it.

In order for people to initially find us, and our content, the majority of that will be coming from Google.

Don't believe me? On Steemit, they can purposely block google from indexing anything on steemit via robots.txt. Try blocking google completely and see how fast this medium grows. It won't be nearly as easy.

To this day, a lot of people don't know what the location bar is in their web browser. So when they want to find a website, they go to google, and in the google searchbox they type: www.steemit.com

They can't list the article twice in its search results. Duplicate content is screened out. I could vomit up 400 of my past posts over the last 5 years of my blog onto steemit. That's not plagiarism, I'm the author too. What kind of quality is that for this community? Also is that what we want Google to see steemit as? 85% duplicate content and 15% unique content? Watch how fast steemit tumbles down the search results at google or gets delisted altogether. Are you trying to hurt this new community long term? Sometimes I don't feel like I'm even speaking english anymore. sigh.

However google frowns upon it.

Why would anyone care what google frowns upon here?

By the way, I downvoted your reply. I disagree with what you are saying, but that's not why I downvoted. I downvoted you to make a point about the point you are making.

If you downvote a post, there should be a reason other than not agreeing on the statement

Hmm, I've been ...

  • Downvoted for marketing Steem. ✓
  • Downvoted for fake marketing Steem. ✓
  • Downvoted for images with no nudity. ✓
  • Downvoted for expressing an opinion. ✓

#should-be-a-reason #lulz

I think nudity should be allowed, as well as "free speech zones" on Steemit.

Just like with Reddit, a person should be asked if they are 18+, and if they click yes then it should take them to the unrestricted part of the site. In addition, if people decide then there should be parts of the site with free speech where any sort of opinion can be expressed pseudo-anonymously, but with warnings for people not to give out their personal information.

In my opinion, free speech is more important to a free society than the ability to censor. At the same time for legal reasons, people have to be given the age disclaimer, and be warned up front that a certain part of Steemit is the free speech part.

In the United States the law is pretty clear in favor of free speech. At the same time there is a social need for pseudo anonymous speech which you sometimes see on Reddit or on 4chan so that people can discuss topics which are sensitive but necessary to be discussed.

Unfortunately, the actual law on free speech is far from clear in the US. Lawyers have, over time, massively corrupted the concept of free speech in the US, to the point that actual laws regarding free speech are understood by only a few. If you take a bar exam, you'll find that free speech questions are some of the most tricky to answer because of all the case law you have to know in order to see how this simple concept has been twisted around. This actually goes for most "constitutional law" in general, but the abuse of the concept of free speech is particularly egregious (probably because it's the most "dangerous" to established viewpoints).

"free speech zones"

I think there should be "non-free speech zones". Everywhere else on the site free speech should be welcome by default.

laws regarding free speech

The fact that we need laws regarding free speech says a lot about society. ;)

:D

This could be the first joke on steemit that could only be made on steemit. I'd upvote you, but it would spoil the joke :-)