I have written about bandcamp before, but I think it is worth bringing up again. If you do not know, it is a service to sell music that gives at least 80% of the money to the artists. I believe that is more than most such services. They allow the artists to set their prices and even allow customers to choose how much they pay. As well as digital downloads they also allow for selling of physical media.
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You can generally stream the music before you pay so you can get a real taste. They do not tend to have bands and artists who are on the radio every day, but there is a vast selection of great music. You can see on my profile that I have bought about 50 items. Some of my favourite artists such as The Fierce and the Dead (instrumental rock) and Big Big Train (classic English prog) have just about all their music on there. I have been able to get signed CDs from some of them by paying a little extra. I do like having my own copy for certain things, but I will buy downloads too.
They have an embeddable player, but it does not seem to work on Steemit or Busy or I would be using it in this post. Go to the site and look around to hear some music. The sites need to support more media.
Wirex Debit Card. I would think this company would be a good fit as artists could be posting here to earn more. Niche acts can have loyal fans who will want to support them in any way they can. Being able to earn just by posting and interacting with fans ought to be attractive when every penny counts, but I can understand that they have to focus their efforts where they get the most benefit.What I would really like is to be able to buy music directly for #Steem. I have spent some Steem on music via my
I know people like @birdinc (from Steemit Inc) and @starkerz (from @oracle-d) are talking to businesses to get them to work with and invest in Steem. Maybe this could be another candidate.
Of course one thing that would help to bring them here is a larger audience. I see figures of around 45,000 active accounts, but I suspect a lot of those are 'bots' of various types. Music needs human listeners. This is part of the reason I kicked of the Ten thousand minnows project. We need lots more people using and earning Steem that they could be spending. I think we need a vibrant economy and not just speculation.
SeineI know some other Steemians who use Bandcamp such as @hockney, @katharsisdrill and @shortcut. I think the only music I have bought after discovering the band on Steem was by frm Slovenia. Band members @marinauzelac , @bonvivan , @grobens and @dimitrij do not seem so active now, but maybe they are touring or recording. Do you know of Steemians who use it? I have thought that I ought to make some decent recordings of my own music and get it on there, but would anyone buy it?
So should the Steem community be reaching out to Bandcamp? Should we be talking to the artists to get them on board first? If you know any who need an account then I have some to give away.
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Bandcamp is decent. They have a strong community and have been here for a while. Have you checked out @Dsound? It’s a music platform for Steem. I usually upload instrumentals on there. There’s some good talent on here...this is where I found @edprivat . DSound is making some real good moves and plans to grow. I do understand Steem needs to grow too, DSound is a foundation of Steems growth and we have an owner that actually cares about us @prc. I don’t think I’ll be able to talk to the owner of bandcamp. I’ve made more $ from music in DSound then any other platform combined so I’m definitely a believer in DSound. I think it’s worth a try to check it out and see the community!!
I know about @dsound and have met @prc. I think it could be a great home for musicians and I know he is working on ways to monetise beyond the 7 days that Steem allows. I just think we should look into existing platforms that have lots of users to see if they can work with Steem to the benefit of all. It would be cool if bandcamp had upvote buttons if you log in via Steemconnect or Steem Keychain so the artist gets something even if you do not immediately buy their music.
yeah i see other blockchains doing that... like tron did with BTT, and now i see other coins partnering up with teams. I just want to see Dsound flourish. Most albums have a shelf life of 18 days... after that you really don't get any streams unless you got a big fanbase. Also on Dsound you can upvote your track more than once because its a post. So the same track can make you money throughout the whole year and more
Looking at Bandcamp now... and wondering why there's still so few services that you can pay with crypto, even Btc ones are rare. I wonder when it will all start happening?
A year on (I'm 1 today on STEEM... woot!), and its easier to buy crypto, but buying anything other than the main ones is still a pain in the arse. When it gets easier we will see better adoption levels.
I expect there are some business/legal issues in taking crypto, but I know some businesses take it. There are services that allow a web store to offer it. Given how hard it is to make money in the music world I would think they would be looking into it.
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And you have to pay quite a high fee if yer buying small amounts via coinbase (the most accessible way for me).
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It will be good when other sites start accepting crypto more, but I was thinking something else the other day. Not so much just for musicians, but more for like a Patreon style thing on Steem. Imagine being a musician with a steem patreon system set up. You could allow downloading of songs or albums for patreon members or something. The membership could be all in steem and easily set up to occur every month automatically as well as donations too. This wouldn't be limited to musicians either. It would be good for just about anybody. A problem might be only allowing members to view certain posts, since it's all visible to everyone on the blockchain I'm not sure how that would be managed. I'm sure someone could figure it out though.
I like that idea ,because it’s one thing to upvote but if Artiste/creators had more ways to earn they would be active on the platform ! Even making songs, ebookd etc downloadable with pay in steem would be good but still early days yet yeah
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There's all sorts of potential for things like that. I expect something could be built for exclusive content that is external to the Steem blockchain, but uses data from it to see who paid.
Yeah an external way would be a solution, but then it comes back to being centralized. I'm wondering if, maybe further down the road, someone comes up with a way to encrypt steem posts and only lets people with a "membership key" to decipher it. It's still so early anything could happen.
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Interesting @djlethalskillz introduced me to musicoin a blockchain based app similar to bandcamp.. As someone involved in music production professionally I can tell you record labels and radio are spurting out a death rattle and scrambling to stay relevant...
I feel certain steem can be a platform for ala carte entertainment someday..
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I think we need to do what we can to get bands on here and to bring their fans over. I've heard it said that an artist needs 1000 true fans to make a living and that could be even better on Steem if each fan invests enough to make their vote worth something. Definite potential and those who join early stand to gain the most. They will attract others.
I need to look more into musicoin.
Agreed, more than bands we can host production houses, DJs etc,
I imagine a future where the "meet up" mentality becomes the glue and we see the internet meld into real world relationships, partnerships etc..
I don't share my stuff on here as of yet because honestly I'm busy and I'm more focused on surviving my marketplace here in KL.. But, I definitely see how having a community of artists, management, video production, mastering, and all the machine of the fractured recording industry could coalesce here with a transparent ledger.. This gives the artist or creator something they very rarely have, control and a degree of freedom that's currently strictly reserved for the mega stars like Beyonce. Otherwise, you're Indy or owned by a faceless entity..
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It certainly sounds like a natural integration.
We just need more technical development to link everything together more seamlessly.
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I wish you the best of the successes in your project, certainly it is required to grow steemit and for this you need new active users, who consistently keep working in the chain. I liked reading you, since I find a positive energy, for wanting to achieve good things through the platform, that encourages me to continue working with much more force.
Good vibes
Thanks for reading. There can be a lot of negativity around, but I look for the good in people and do what I can to help them.
It is a valuable aspiration since, in the world, more people are needed who wish to do good, it would be a more beautiful world. I like your good energy.
That would be HUGE. I’m really optimistic looking at a service like musicoin. If bitcoin could partner with musicoin and offer streaming to all of the bands already on the platform it would change everything. There are so many indie kids in nearly every city around the world who play shows and put their music up on Bandcamp and get tons of listens. If they all started making 10c, 50c or even a dollar per stream we would see a whole new class of big earners. Like I mean really big earners. That would change the world overnight as it would throw down the current media establishment in a blink.
I have a few things from BandCamp - some from artists who use it as a download site to accompany physical material.
I tried to persuade a musician friend to use it as it seems small, honest, and as you say has a decent user base. But he went with another service which seems to be taking more money than it's giving (my friend is not remotely internet-savvy).
Regarding getting Steem accepted: I feel it's going to require someone writing a Pay-Pal style DApp, so that it's a low effort investment on behalf of the vendor sites to hook us up.
I expect someone is working on some plugin for paying with Steem. I would certainly use it. I found a lot of artists on bandcamp that I liked. A lot of those were via The Dividing Line prog podcasts that I used to listen to.
I havent heard about bandcamp before. I will check their website :)
I think it's great that they allow musicians to earn well from what they do and they happen to have a lot that I enjoy.
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Everytime I see Band Camp I think Garage Band and it doesn't make sense to me. Now, I finally see where I was mixing things up and it makes a whole lot more sense. This looks like a really cool service. I have Sound Cloud installed on my phone, but I have a feeling this does a better job of rewarding the contributors than that one does. Thanks for sharing(again).