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RE: Proposed Changes to Steem Economy

in #steem8 years ago (edited)

I can no longer stomach the subpar, bottom-dwelling quality on Steemit and I have moved back to Medium for both blogging and reading. At least on that platform my posts won't endure senseless flagging and collapsing when I speak my mind. I have over 1K followers on Medium and people who disagree with me leave comments. They don't have the power to collapse my thoughts. I'll probably write first on Medium then copy my stuff over here, just to keep up appearances. I'm also thinking of setting up a bot to vote as I no longer want to sift through all the junk myself.

The trending page for me has become like a bad dream, a writer's nightmare. I think Steemit suffers from an identity crisis, but the thing is, my attention is not something I'm willing to plunder. Quality writers have pretty much bailed and we're left with yesterday's sandwich crusts. This video pretty much sums up my current feelings about how this ship is going......can you find yourself in it?

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Quality has gone down along with the pay rate. I guess when people find out that they can't get paid enough to survive on Steem they go back to blogging on other platforms where their audience is bigger or on Youtube where they at least know they will get paid by views.

Steemit could change this by making it's UI/UX better and make it as good as other platforms but right now Steemit isn't even as good as Reddit and already people act shocked about the low price of the Steem token? Steem token prices go down because we don't even have groups yet.

Developers shouldn't waste time on these useless parameters and should focus on developing utility like groups and subscription. Even a friends list would go a long way, with private messages, but instead we have this debate about changing the economics without even the first 2 years going by?

It looks like the founders aren't confident in their own platform and want out. So who will buy Steem Power now?

Steemit could change this by making it's UI/UX better and make it as good as other platforms but right now Steemit isn't even as good as Reddit and already people act shocked about the low price of the Steem token? Steem token prices go down because we don't even have groups yet.

Developers shouldn't waste time on these useless parameters and should focus on developing utility like groups and subscription. Even a friends list would go a long way, with private messages, but instead we have this debate about changing the economics without even the first 2 years going by?

I definitely understand how you feel @stellbelle, especially for getting reprimanded for voicing your opinion or trying to create balance. Also the feeling of the people or your group that your used to being connected with leaving.

I understand that all of this is upsetting and hurts you in someway. but at the same time it is unnecessary to attack the people who are still writing on steemit. To make a blanket statement that the majority of quality writer have left and every one else is just "the crust" is hurtful. Especially since a good majority of people here value your opinions and really look up to you. It is even more depressing for the writer who are still learning by expanding their writing and may not actually be "the best quality writers above others" but still wanting to write on steemit.

We all respect your decisions to switch over to medium as your main platform, especially because of the inequality that it sounds like you are feeling. But there is no need to try to burn this bridge and "ship" down as you are leaving too. Especially for all of us 14k+ of us that are still on this ship that fully support you with whatever you do and everything that you have done.

I know your feeling emotional but please try to be aware of what your saying when you speak to "us". Your influence is greater than I think you even realize.

I'm not burning anything. The design of Steemit did that itself.
Everyone should lead themselves. I am a writer and artist first.
If people choose to follow me, then that is their decision. We are all adults here.
When you approach things from a sentimental perspective, that is when your judgment fails you. I write for a living. I read a lot. I did think that writers would start slowing sifting over here, but I was wrong. They tell me that they want nothing to do with a sketchy place. You are all attacking me because I speak my mind without filters. I am providing useful information, if you could just stop being so defensive. Attachment does this to humans, obviously.
I'm not attached to any platform. I'm looking for a digital home that solves my basic issues while at the same time giving me a sense of real value. So far, I have been very lucky because i joined early. I am grateful for that. I consider it a real blessing. I am cautiously optimistic now instead of being over the top enthusiastic. It will take a long time for this place to attract quality people. And it could self-correct, sure, I am open to that possibility. But the main centralization of power issues will take a long time to sort out. That is my main concern.

Flagging is one of the biggest reason that we have so many abandoned accounts. Flagging was designed to get rid of spammers and abusive people. We want them gone, but it should take many flags to even show up as a red mark on someone's opinion.

I suggesst a graduated flagging power - like Steem Power (could even be SP) which could take out abusive posts slowly. I would also suggest that the ability to flag be given to all, and taken away when powering down. And given in perportion to reputation. A new account cannot reward posts (zero impact), their flags should not impact users with higher reputations (zero impact). Solution...

For posts and comments

  • Rep-25 users could have flagging wars all day and it should be inperceptible to the network!
  • Disgusted users who are trying to leave Steemit - can't burn the ship down on the way out - I have not seen it but it could happen. Power down = no flagging power.
  • You may need 10 different dolphins to flag a particular post before anyone knows it has been flagged. You may only need 3 whales to flag it in order for it to be collapsed.

We also need something to stop people from flagging an entire account! Let's say I join, blog for a month, limited success, but I am growing. I flag someone for good reason, and they come to my home and red mark everything I have written.

  • If I flag you, you cannot flag me back. Others will have to control me if I am being "bad"

Flags are like farts at a party. Too many and nobody wants to stay.

Well then, @stellabelle

Please, define and describe an ideal digital home. I'm serious by the way-- while my other posts may seem to you obnoxious, I'm really curious what you think would be better, because its' clear we've got to hammer on steemit a bit to improve it.

but at the same time it is unnecessary to attack the people who are still writing on steemit. To make a blanket statement that the majority of quality writer have left and every one else is just "the crust" is hurtful.

Hate to say it, but this is kind of what I came to expect from @stellabelle. Try not to look up to her so much and you will feel better. It has been made clear to many of us that though she is a good writer she tends to speak from a the vantage point of expertise on issues she really isn't qualified to speak on. Sure free speech is fine, but the simple fact that she believes that steem is a place where she can be censored kind of proves the point that she is looking at everything from the perspective of someone who knows very little about the meaning of beta level software.

There are MANY high quality content creators I consistently see on this platform. And after less than 7 months being alive, this #blockchain has proven it can scale above and beyond all other blockchains that propose to compete.

Medium is fine, but stellabelle has not stopped copying and pasting to steemit. Why? Just to keep up appearances? or maybe because medium doesn't give her even a chance to get paid and she knows it?....Me thinks it is the latter.

Yep, it was really strange reading her. I don't really know what people expect when the join a venture...It's a kind of weird mind set. Why not stay in Medium if it's better. People are posting good content here. I'm reading good content daily and I'm witnessing all the projects going on around the world. That's the value of Steem and please in less than a year.

I think she needs a hug.

I've no idea, but yeah, it was a very...

"wow"

kinda post.

Get over it, she's right. I still put up a few things, but with very few exception the remaining posts are either dry as dust technical drivel, or English as a Second Language. It's bad, worse than Wattpad.

how old are the other platforms? right and wrong are subjective man. ;)

@stellabelle U HAVE 2 months ranting and venting about quality of steemit posts, leaving from here and etc. Is this comment ur real farewell? no worries, I have more than 700 friends on facebook, 754 tumblr followers and 547 instagram followers and I am not even a good writer. Social media is supposed to be fun, not to find the next Nobel winner in literature.

Totally agree. Not everyone wants to be an author, and although I enjoy Stellabelle, I feel pretty confident I could find her work with a single google search at any point, no matter where it is posted.

@thebluepanda so this is in fact where you are wrong: Social media is a little bit of both which both?

  1. Fun
  2. Totally a place where you could find the next nobel prize winning writer.

Social media encompasses the very wide range of human experiences and expressions.

Hi @faddat I couldn't respond to you in the other thread so I came here. Can you please share with my why you think internet advertising is dying? It really isn't. Online advertising is actually growing not dying. Next year online ad spending is predicted to overtake TV spending for the first time.

I think you may be misinterpreting current struggles with ad blocking technology. The industry is adapting and expanding not contracting and dying.

Without some sort of future advertising monetization, steem would be nothing more than a pyramid scheme reliant on an infinite stream of new users paying up to the old ones.

I will bet that we either see some sort of steem, steem power or SBD based advertising system like the promotion tab coming in the next year or we will see steem die.

Where is the value in steem if not in advertising money?

what are you talking about? social media is both of what?

oh please, if i want to find the next Nobel winner, I go to a library.

never miss a chance to victimize yourself :D even if you are right - thrending sucksm you are not helping your case by putting yourself first.
Also, trending ALWAYS sucked but when you were on it it was ok for you.

If you are so sick of the sub-par writing on Steemit, perhaps you should start reading my posts...

Oh.... that was cheeky!!!! hehehe

add me to your steemvoter :)

If Steemit is only a place for professional writers, I wouldn't want to visit.

Didn't you make god damn near a million dollars on Steemit? Fine by me if we only count SBD earnings-- how much was the tally, anyway?

Oh, poor poor you and your writer's nightmare.