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RE: How to stop almost all abuse on Steem (Edited)

in #steem7 years ago

I used that Steem Power because it was a problem on dMania as well, so it concerns the dMania community.
I already thought I wouldn't make many friends by discussing this topic. It is still very important that people see there is a problem. If people think or talk about it, I achieved my goal.

I pushed that post for maximum visibility, not for personal gain. There would have been much better or easier ways to do that if I want to fill my own pockets. I wouldn't have spend hours writing that post and bringing it to everyone's attention.
The ones who are really filling their pockets on Steem are not directly visible to everyone, they are hiding behind the scenes.

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You’re full of shit. You do see I can counter every dmania vote, yes?

I mean, I'm torn. On the one hand, I'm TOTALLY with the masses. It sucks when whales and large dolphs can upvote the reward pool into their pockets, leaving the rest of us with less.

It sucks and I hate it--not because they are making more than I am, but because it degrades and jeopardizes the total value and longevity of steemit, and is a bogus move, from a long-term investment position.

On the other hand, how is it any different than taking an ROI on some venture capital?

On the other hand, when your business decisions as a large share-holder are negatively affecting the landscape and economy as a whole of the business by which you gain, is it not then your responsibility as a large share-holder to cradle the success of the business like a baby in your hand?

And if that is the case, should you not be treated as a share-holder would, in a board meeting, with a majority vote?

And isn't that where our witnesses come in to some degree? And I suppose, by your (bernie) making a statement here and there, that is the result of a board meeting of sorts, is it not?

Just thinking out loud right now.

Superb bro

It all comes down to remaining focused on your own efforts, and both cooperating with and competing with the people at your level. You will invariably climb the ladder. There's is no difficult-to-climb dominance hierarchy here like we have in the fiat economy.

Every skill has value here so long as you know how to produce, create, teach, or entertain.

OP does have a point... this post passes copyscapes it isn't like they are copying. The post is thought out at least, it seems.

The best solution would be to BAN the BOTS from Steemit and to enforce one account per user

And how do you propose that to be done on a technical level?

Grumpycat did a surprisingly good job of forcing the bots to only upvote posts that are less that 3.5 days old. If a few whales joined forces, they could tip the ROI of a bot into the negatives and close them down one at a time.

I'm not from a technical background. However, I think that the bots should be identified and have their accounts closed or massively flagged to drop their reputation to negative levels

That's not how it works in a decentralized system. If someone has the power to simply close someone else's account, then we suddenly are in a centralized system.

Steemit is anything but a decentralized system. LOL

I hope there is something I can do to stop the dmania upvote countering because Dmania is such an incredible tool for steem and it would stop such incredible organic momentum we are getting from Dmania, Steemit and 4chans massive meme communities will come to steem and bring millions of users from all over the web, its really an incredible tool for steem and i am SURE zombee will apologize and learn from his mistakes here i will try and talk with him

I think that's exactly what everyone does NOT want.

It's only cool if you counter garbage memes

is right but there are people who do not see it from that point of view and misinterpret it thinking that you only use the publication to fill your pockets

like getting a good comment

Zombee, Thank you for the information

The comments preceding each of bernie's auto-flags are earning him hundreds of dollars per day. See for yourself on http://steem.supply

Hmmmm. OK, so what's your takeaway on that? I mean, is that so bad? Or are you simply pointing out perhaps a hint of hypocrisy?

Not just a hint of hypocrisy... but that's the idea. This is just the one account, he has about 15 bots doing the same thing. They are accumulating 1000's of dollars for posting the same repetitive comment over, and over.

Not only that, these comments are each associated with downvotes on someone's posts or comments meaning their share of the reward pool for those posts effectively vanishes. He is not only taking from the reward pool in the same way he blames others for, he is shrinking the Steemit economy a little more with each downvote.

When you consider that Steem Power is an appreciating asset, it compounds its value over time when you use it to curate, and then you consider that Bernie's considerable Steem Power is not being used in this way, and that he is taking Steem Power from others based on some philosophy of "guilt by association" ... who is the one doing all the harm?

What's worse is he knows it. He isn't at all dumb. He is using the typical populist approach to gaining followers by telling people they are victims and that he is their hero. When does he ever encourage people to make their own creative contributions to Steem?

Guess how the people who have to protect themselves from Bernie's onslaught go about doing that? They upvote their own content to counteract his flagging, and then Bernie gets to run to his followers with another story... "look at the reward pool rapists!"

Bernie is the bad guy. He has been flagging my share of the rewards pool away since my account was 2 days old. I have never abused the system in any way.

Wow. I had no idea.

But what doesn't make any sense is why he would he be flagging you 2 days in? I would logically conclude either he made an error, or there was something that caught his attention, especially if he kept it up.

What was it that pissed him off so much? I don't really get it? I mean, I totally get what you're saying about raping the reward pool with hypocrite cries. But why pick on you? What, did he date your sister or something?

No, I commented on a post by @haejin, and then protested when I was flagged for it. That's really it. I unwittingly stepped into a political crossfire. I didn't know @haejin was a marked man when I came here, when I look at his account history on steem.supply and I look at bernie's, what I see is that Bernie is just a vindictive person with no clear cause. You should see all the nasty things he says to people. No class. This behavior can't be seen on haejin's account history at all. What can be seen is that he accumulates about 1.1% of the total reward pool for himself.

The resolution is to educate people about the apps available to us for viewing the blockchain. Transparency is the real deal here, and @haejin is the better man.

Also, here is a screenshot of one of my own blog posts where he and his bots flagged all the rewards away. This was a post meant to encourage people like myself who still find themselves a bit gun shy about producing video...

I always thought that was the gag you know? Depriving others while enriching yourself. Pretty much exactly like the real Bernie Sanders.

Is the account not a funny joke? Or are people taking it seriously?