I don't understand why you drag Steemcleaners to your personal war with him.
We do not take any sides and we are neutral towards flag wars between users.
Neither we take your side nor markymark's but for some reason we end up being flagged by your both.
Your accounts have been deactivated from our mack bot a while ago after you changed the way they worked so I do not understand your sudden attack on our project.
Why are you complaining? You (@steemcleaners) are still Top Author By Payout.
I don't like your business model with downvotes, nothing personal against you and @themarkymark. Downvotes are bad for Steem. I hope you can see it now.
Steem cannot attract relevant authors, brands, companies because they risk being attacked by some random whale in a bad mood.
What your flagging is going to cause is that we will just stop working. This work contributes to pay of my bills. I'm not going to sit around 20 hours per week working for free for the project that is trying to improve social platform that has zero appreciation for our work.
How that's going to end up is that we will cease the work as there is no point.
Anyone that has ever attacked or criticized us has tried to exploit Steemit in one way or another. I don't recall any criticism from anyone who tried to use Steemit in honest and considerate way.
He thinks he's #NewSteem, when he was one of the biggest supporters of the problems we tried to combat. The times when nobody wanted to downvote bad stuff because it "costed them upvotes".
Like a moron, @anthonyadavisii tried to use @steemflagrewards to incentive a little bit of care into the platform when he should have just left and stopped giving a fuck.
Where was @boosta when we needed help? Where was @boosta when we could have used help against whales? Nowhere to be found.
He was too busy sponsoring the very people who were exploiting the platform via bots, etc. As if the other bad whales weren't enough. He enabled a shit ton of asshats to do the same.
At least you are somewhat compensated, @logic. Others haven't even gotten 1% of your wage for doing what you do.
How about the whale he downvoted for a while? Still doing the same thing. Except, he managed to alienate everyone who might have shared similar sentiments.
I'm this close to be done with this platform. @guiltyparties and @anthonyadavisii managed to get me stay last time, but I'm just so sick of being underappreciated for all the shit being flung at us.
Everyone always expect us to do much more with the SP we have, but they don't ever seem to want to pitch in a dime for our effort. Then, they bitch about it when there are some people who wanted to support us.
Not everyone believes what you do is good. Steemcleaners go after "spam" posts, while it spams comments all day and enjoys lucrative upvote rewards. It is a hyporitical project and I don't mind if you do quit. I side with @boosta.
It's private funding not from Delegation from Steemit Inc. Delegation from Steemit Inc has never been used for a single upvote.
If you want to go after lucrative projects that exploit community and Steemit Inc delegation to curate they own circle of buddies, go after Steem Hunt.
Sure, we can ignore reports for copypasta spam and so decrease the number of comments per day.
Then we will increase funding on comments from 9.5% upvote to 100% per comment, only limiting to commenting plagiarism, identity deception/theft and scams.
Actually that would dramatically decrease amount of work too as we do every comment manually but we would still receive the same remuneration for our work.
It's unfortunate that @boosta is so fixated on one thing that he doesn't like that he completely disregards the good that we do for the chain. In other words, he "can't see the forest for the trees".
On the other, I appreciate the work you do @enforcer48 and all the SFR peeps behind the scenes much of which has not been acknowledged by decisive stakeholders.
Let's not lose heart just yet, I'll be putting in more time to hopefully draft a compelling proposal with specific deliverables from SFR in addition to the previous stuff from the brainstorming.
Perhaps, @boosta just doesn't understand the work being done behind the scenes. We are open door on the server so he is welcome to stop by and make suggestions.
I'll work on polishing up a proposal and I also have been working on the server setup. Just spun up a new virtual machine this morning so let's see where it goes.
I really hate that I couldn't get my OS on the SSD but will make do.
I'm just waiting for more nukes on SC to come and rewards going to nothing.
I'd like to see what happens to Steemit when we stop investigating and shut down our work. When it drowns in the spam and abuse and Steem being mass dumped by scammers/spammers/abusers on exchanges. I wonder they would degrade Steem to 1 cent:-)
Steem cannot attract relevant authors, brands, companies because they risk being attacked by some random whale in a bad mood.
Then don’t be a bad whale? Why are you making other people be accountable for your actions?
Imagine Twitter or Facebook with downvotes
But they do have ban. Just like how a parody account on Twitter got banned for making fun of @rogerkver. The charge? Impersonation. How bloody ridiculous was that?
Who are you to decide what is spam, fraud...? Superman? Some people are not that perfect as you and maybe wrong in judging what's right and what's not. There will always be debate over bad flags. There must be a better solution than argue who is right.
Who are you to decide who to upvote? Who put you in charge to decide who should get rewards? Same problem just in reverse.
Everyone one here should be flagging content that should not receive rewards. It is the only way we can prevent steem becoming $0. Yet there are always people like you that use flags as a weapon to harass and troll people rather than what is good for the platform.
I generally only flag the worse cases of abuse. It’s my right as a stake holder. I don’t flag people willy nilly, I flag people posting 50+ times a day, plagiarizing images and text, and copying other people’s work. I flag really bad cases of reward disagreement but I generally don’t do much in that department as it is very subjective but what I do flag is clearly shit content.
You want to chat about it, hit me up on steemchat or discord. Without flags we will have people shit posting 10 times a day with no one challenging it. There will be zero distribution and just account preservation posts like many did in hf20 and earlier.
There is a vast difference between my flags and yours and Haejins.
It isn't really for anyone to tell another what they should flag though. Boosta bought his SP and it comes with an upvote and a downvote. Its a matter of personal preference, I wish the downvote button didn't exist, but it does so that means we all have the right to do what we want with it.
Didn’t know there’s a subjective line for fraud and plagiarism. Care to elaborate on that? By your logic, maybe Bitconnect was legit all this time.
Please don’t use businesses as an excuse for why flags are bad.
Until I see @steemmonsters and @nTopaz get flagged into oblivion, I don’t buy that rhetoric. Most people don’t start shit with legitimate businesses. Nobody in their right mind would put their large stake as collateral damage in a “bad mood” against a business.
Go talk to people on Whaleshares, who got rid of flags on their platform, see how their token tanked to almost nothing as the whales went mass farming and dumping.
I don't understand why you drag Steemcleaners to your personal war with him.
We do not take any sides and we are neutral towards flag wars between users.
Neither we take your side nor markymark's but for some reason we end up being flagged by your both.
Your accounts have been deactivated from our mack bot a while ago after you changed the way they worked so I do not understand your sudden attack on our project.
Why are you complaining?
You (@steemcleaners) are still Top Author By Payout.
I don't like your business model with downvotes, nothing personal against you and @themarkymark. Downvotes are bad for Steem. I hope you can see it now.
Steem cannot attract relevant authors, brands, companies because they risk being attacked by some random whale in a bad mood.
Imagine Twitter or Facebook with downvotes.
What your flagging is going to cause is that we will just stop working. This work contributes to pay of my bills. I'm not going to sit around 20 hours per week working for free for the project that is trying to improve social platform that has zero appreciation for our work.
How that's going to end up is that we will cease the work as there is no point.
Anyone that has ever attacked or criticized us has tried to exploit Steemit in one way or another. I don't recall any criticism from anyone who tried to use Steemit in honest and considerate way.
He thinks he's #NewSteem, when he was one of the biggest supporters of the problems we tried to combat. The times when nobody wanted to downvote bad stuff because it "costed them upvotes".
Like a moron, @anthonyadavisii tried to use @steemflagrewards to incentive a little bit of care into the platform when he should have just left and stopped giving a fuck.
Where was @boosta when we needed help? Where was @boosta when we could have used help against whales? Nowhere to be found.
He was too busy sponsoring the very people who were exploiting the platform via bots, etc. As if the other bad whales weren't enough. He enabled a shit ton of asshats to do the same.
And here he is... #NewSteem! Talk about #fakeSteem and #oldSteem bullshit.
At least you are somewhat compensated, @logic. Others haven't even gotten 1% of your wage for doing what you do.
How about the whale he downvoted for a while? Still doing the same thing. Except, he managed to alienate everyone who might have shared similar sentiments.
I'm this close to be done with this platform. @guiltyparties and @anthonyadavisii managed to get me stay last time, but I'm just so sick of being underappreciated for all the shit being flung at us.
Everyone always expect us to do much more with the SP we have, but they don't ever seem to want to pitch in a dime for our effort. Then, they bitch about it when there are some people who wanted to support us.
I am almost done with this platform myself.
I left once for 6 months in the end of 2016.
Not everyone believes what you do is good. Steemcleaners go after "spam" posts, while it spams comments all day and enjoys lucrative upvote rewards. It is a hyporitical project and I don't mind if you do quit. I side with @boosta.
It's private funding not from Delegation from Steemit Inc. Delegation from Steemit Inc has never been used for a single upvote.
If you want to go after lucrative projects that exploit community and Steemit Inc delegation to curate they own circle of buddies, go after Steem Hunt.
Sure, we can ignore reports for copypasta spam and so decrease the number of comments per day.
Then we will increase funding on comments from 9.5% upvote to 100% per comment, only limiting to commenting plagiarism, identity deception/theft and scams.
Actually that would dramatically decrease amount of work too as we do every comment manually but we would still receive the same remuneration for our work.
How about that?
Is the steemit userbase growing now?
Let's rage quit together.
It is #RagequitFriday again according to @whatsup.
It's unfortunate that @boosta is so fixated on one thing that he doesn't like that he completely disregards the good that we do for the chain. In other words, he "can't see the forest for the trees".
On the other, I appreciate the work you do @enforcer48 and all the SFR peeps behind the scenes much of which has not been acknowledged by decisive stakeholders.
Let's not lose heart just yet, I'll be putting in more time to hopefully draft a compelling proposal with specific deliverables from SFR in addition to the previous stuff from the brainstorming.
Perhaps, @boosta just doesn't understand the work being done behind the scenes. We are open door on the server so he is welcome to stop by and make suggestions.
I'll work on polishing up a proposal and I also have been working on the server setup. Just spun up a new virtual machine this morning so let's see where it goes.
I really hate that I couldn't get my OS on the SSD but will make do.
I'm just waiting for more nukes on SC to come and rewards going to nothing.
I'd like to see what happens to Steemit when we stop investigating and shut down our work. When it drowns in the spam and abuse and Steem being mass dumped by scammers/spammers/abusers on exchanges. I wonder they would degrade Steem to 1 cent:-)
Is the steemit userbase growing now?
Don’t really use Steemit. Prefer SteemPeak.
Is the steempeak userbase growing now?
#abuse @steemflagrewards
#rewardpoolrape
Wow!!!!
Is the steemit userbase growing now?
I think the total number of accounts is still going up slightly but I think the number of actual users went dowm some.
Then don’t be a bad whale? Why are you making other people be accountable for your actions?
But they do have ban. Just like how a parody account on Twitter got banned for making fun of @rogerkver. The charge? Impersonation. How bloody ridiculous was that?
Dude your point is so fucking valid... Shit dude... Maybe that's why steem is fucking 0.12 cents now... They killed it
coming from the random whale in a bad mood maliciously flagging.
I flag people for spam, plagiarism, fraud, not because I don't like them or their opinion. Bad flags are bad for steem.
Who are you to decide what is spam, fraud...? Superman? Some people are not that perfect as you and maybe wrong in judging what's right and what's not. There will always be debate over bad flags. There must be a better solution than argue who is right.
Who are you to decide who to upvote? Who put you in charge to decide who should get rewards? Same problem just in reverse.
Everyone one here should be flagging content that should not receive rewards. It is the only way we can prevent steem becoming $0. Yet there are always people like you that use flags as a weapon to harass and troll people rather than what is good for the platform.
I generally only flag the worse cases of abuse. It’s my right as a stake holder. I don’t flag people willy nilly, I flag people posting 50+ times a day, plagiarizing images and text, and copying other people’s work. I flag really bad cases of reward disagreement but I generally don’t do much in that department as it is very subjective but what I do flag is clearly shit content.
You want to chat about it, hit me up on steemchat or discord. Without flags we will have people shit posting 10 times a day with no one challenging it. There will be zero distribution and just account preservation posts like many did in hf20 and earlier.
There is a vast difference between my flags and yours and Haejins.
It isn't really for anyone to tell another what they should flag though. Boosta bought his SP and it comes with an upvote and a downvote. Its a matter of personal preference, I wish the downvote button didn't exist, but it does so that means we all have the right to do what we want with it.
Is the steemit userbase growing now?
No
Didn’t know there’s a subjective line for fraud and plagiarism. Care to elaborate on that? By your logic, maybe Bitconnect was legit all this time.
Please don’t use businesses as an excuse for why flags are bad.
Until I see @steemmonsters and @nTopaz get flagged into oblivion, I don’t buy that rhetoric. Most people don’t start shit with legitimate businesses. Nobody in their right mind would put their large stake as collateral damage in a “bad mood” against a business.
Go talk to people on Whaleshares, who got rid of flags on their platform, see how their token tanked to almost nothing as the whales went mass farming and dumping.
Couldn't agree more. So what do you @boosta suggest as a way forward from this bad flag debate?
This is interesting point. More I read about this more I understand entire view on post voting.