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RE: [Steemit Etiquette] Using 95+ Bot Accounts to Upvote your own Content. Fair Game or Not Cool?

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

I would argue I am being outright malicious. I completely admit to it in my post:

if I want to upvote with all my VESTS, I cause a sybil attack and can immediately start trending on hot (it is quite silly)

On the other hand, I am actively trying to figure out how to break the system, and garner discussion on how to fix it, before too many people start breaking things.

I tried to raise awareness about sybils in my posts, but that topic did not get much attention, other than people suggesting NOT to limit accounts. So I hope your post gets attention.

This is why I really like smooth's response to a) Destroy the Hot section, and b) Do not display vote count, only 'stake' that a post has earned.

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What a great response @anyx !

Probably this post this will not garner enough attention and it did not use Bots to upvote itself. Your post already had quite a few upvotes when you used your "attack" it would only increase the payout. Also the post itself was not only about your own attack. Neither your post nor this post might be enough to really make the problem obvious to everyone.

In my opinion more awareness needs to be raised.

For now I will propose to create a Bug report to see what the Devs say.

If the problem is ignored:

  1. We need to be another more obvious attack with even more bots 1000 - 5000 within the first 10 minutes. The content needs to be shit! E.g. This is why we cannot display vote count and must destroy hot.
  2. A simple one-click solution or guide for the average Joe to create hundreds of Bots. We need to level the playing field

Well, let's get some attention. 150 votes aught to do it, eh? We're at the top of /hot already.

Created a Bug Report Here: https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/233

Both Hot and the Vote Count can be easily manipulated to make an article more visible and thus indirectly increase payout.
Using the API we can easily create hundred of accounts whenever a POW is found. In fact this behaviour is encouraged in order to mine continuously, or we are penalized. However when duplicate accounts are used to upvote content than it skyrockets in the Hot section. Also the vote count is misleading as it suggest that many low steem power users support the post although it is actually the same person.
The below image is a an example. It was upvoted with 150 Bot accounts and appears at the top of the Hot section although there is little payout associated with it.

Hola, disculpen todos.! Soy desarrollador de software y comprendo lo que hablan. Ademas que hice algo similiar pero con fb.com xD en 2014. Luego, aplicaron la verificación de cédula y teléfono por cuenta. En cuanto a steemit.com, tengamos en cuenta que es un proyecto de la ICO STEEM, y ellos proporcionan su código en un repositorio de forma publica https://github.com/steemit/devportal, para que otros desarrolladores haga su red social usando las mismas API, ¿Porque digo esto?, porque son interesantes sus intenciones, además que cobran de inmediato por el servicio prestado. Sin embargo, los invito a que interactúen directamente con ellos en https://steem.io, seguro los recompensan! Además, que no hay un control directo sobre los FRON-END en github con que ya se han desarrollado otras redes sociales. El tiempo es dinero y vida. El equipo de STEEM, con los datos que ustedes han recolectado. Ellos tienen que ver, si corrigen validando la base de datos o el BACK-END. y quizás les tome su tiempo. o nose. Pero no es necesario, armar tanta polémica. Es necesaria Obviamente para la evidencia, pero no esperen que el programador venga a ustedes. Si dicen que a ustedes tambien les interesa. Saludos.!
Nota: De mi parte, también he detectado errores y pronto los publicare. No los reporto directamente porque son temas dóciles, pero el de ustedes es muy importante.

Comento como si la publicación fuera de hoy, debido a veo a que aun falta que algunos conozcan estas opiniones y quizás a alguien le sirva.
¿Lo lograron resolver.? Me gustaria saber que paso luego de un año.