I just found out how people get those upvotes. There are voting bots out there that if you pay money to it, it will “increase” the number of votes received on a post or on a comment for a contest entry. So if a contest rule is that the person with the most vote wins, the person is guaranteed to win.
There are also trails used. It essentially allows others to attach onto your vote, so when the leader makes a vote, the individuals “trailing”” will vote along. So now 1 vote becomes 10 votes.
I’m new too and just learning all this. I won’t throw anyone under the bus. I saw it done on a contest and don’t support people who do this for contests entry. That’s unfair to everyone involved. My two cents.
That has kind of been my observation also, and I understand the great concept here on Steemit but it’s just like anything else in this world, when there’s money involved some people will do whatever to win or get the money.
Understandably. As you said, people will do what they can. As in life. It’s worse here because many are anonymous. Who’s to say the picture they post are really theirs.
I just try to surround myself with good people. Build a community with the same like-minded individuals. We support each other in what ways we can. That’s the best we can do on here. Try to make this place into a positive and supportive community so everyone can grow.
Well there certainly are voting bots out there, but don't they leave trail as to where the votes originate? I found a number of sock-puppets that are related to a paid service. Also the bigger YouTubers get a sign up bonus that is paid in Steem, but I don't know if that is done through votes. If it is, then those YT'ers will dominate the trending pages for a long time. Now, I can understand the logic that says that a YT'er with a million followers can bring more folks to Steemit/Dtube, but on the other hand, why would they come here when those guys still keep posting on YT? I still have more questions than answers; thanks for joining the discussion.
I’m sure the questions will keep on piling the more we are on here. 🙂
I don’t know much about the incentive for YouTubers. Actually didn’t even know there was one. Perhaps the incentive is for people to leave YT completely and bring their followers along and not dual post. The incentives better be really good for YTubers to do that though. I agree, they will probably dominate trending.
Not all voting bots are “noisy”. I didn’t dig into how it’s done. Check out the beer contest @bigskycustoms is in on his blog. Someone mentioned how they’re checking out the comment voting feature.
Everyone is entitled to make their own decisions. I know for sure I won’t make ‘most votes’ as a winning determination for any future contests I decide to host for our newbies community.
Well you hit on a point right there, people have little choice but to be part of a community. That being said I already found some folks who are forming groups of less than 10, ..guess what they are doing. Due to limited visibility I may not see someone's post if I log in at 5pm and they posted at 8am. Then there are those that post 3 times a day and re-steem several posts after that, completely spamming my feed. For that reason I feel I have to limit how many I follow to about 100 as I barely have time to check up on that many active posters, much less vote on all of them. I don't like to be pigeon holed like that. The net result is that I have 170+ followers here, but never get that many views; not even close. On another platform I have 150 followers, but sometimes I get 2000 views and often at least 300+. The sign on bonus info I got from @bethwheatcraft.
very enlightening thread! thank you @onnovocks you have a new follower here, I am still learning all this stuff as well, I have a couple TBI's from the military and my memory isn't that good, hopefully all the tricks of the trade will sink in eventually
We learn as we go. I understand how you feel about being selective on the number of people you choose to follow. I was the same way until I realized I need to be open to meeting others as part of our #newbieresteemday initative. Of course I will clean up my list once I know who I’ve built a relationship with or not.
Given, there are people that want to resteem and other members that help in other ways in my community. Not everyone wants to give up their blog space. I share this account with others and personally don’t resteem. I help out in other ways.
I also don’t post much and I’m not on here all the time. So I don’t have time to read everyone’s posts on my feed. But you build relationships with your community. I don’t get many views myself and the ones that do stop by are the ones I have a relationship with. So I make it a point to visit their blogs, not to just depend on my feed.
Deciding on how you go through this Steemit journey is a personal decision. Thanks for letting me know about the bonus link to the other platform. I barely have time to learn this one, not sure if I would have time to learn others. 😬
Best to you!
The point is that if I follow someone, I follow someone. I don't want to follow 100 people that resteem 5 posts a day to gain curation rewards, it clogs my feed with 500 posts I'm probably not interested in and that I now have to scroll through to get to stuff I am interested in. That means I regularly miss posts from folks I do care about and now have to make the effort to visit their blogs separately from the feed. This gets to be very time consuming; I simply can't do it. Any one I follow that resteems more than 1 post a day, every day, will likely be unfollowed, I can't read them all anyway. Good luck with the beeyou project!!
totally! its sad to see people with a workaround,.. have been there since the beginning and found ways to work their way up the chain, kind of like neistat,.. he's very good at what he does,.. through his experience starting out with HBO, got in with a good following there and then hit it off with vloggin on youtube,.. he uploads and instantly gets 1 million views,.. like that logan guy,.. nothing like free advertising with a controversial video