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in #steemit8 years ago

From what I have noticed is it usually goes like this.

  1. Someone sees a post make a thousand dollars and signs up
  2. New user is incredibly excited to make money and starts posting without really understanding how steemit works
    3.They spend a good amount of time writing a few great posts that make a few dollars
    4.User becomes frustrated and start posting negatively

That is what I've seen time and again from many with negative views of steemit.

Can you explain what you mean by

"Basically, youre employing a double standard. If rok or bella want the money to be distributed one way, then thats because theyre great people who dont care about money.

But if someone disagrees, then theyre greedy stupid assholes who just want to blame other people for their failures."

I'm not sure what the double standard is exactly that you are referring to. rok and bella both care a lot about their votes and use them when they see great content. Whales don't necessarily look at each post and choose to upvote it. They can promote new users or ideas as they see fit. The people complaining are the same ones who have earned more money than on any other social media site. It's because of the comparison to others that they are upset. I also feel I would use steemit without any rewards, because interesting content and writing can be found here that I haven't seen elsewhere.

I do also agree that some whales may need to delegate their voting power to those less busy than themselves, because so much good content goes unnoticed.

When I look at the trending page I guess I don't see as much "low quality infomercial type posts, then they just look for boobs, well known crypto names, and cheerleading," as you do. I see the stella and rok and donkeypong and piedpiper posts that add value. Eventually I believe less will be made about steemit and how to's, but that is something new people continuously need to see and with wang being invisible, they will most likely be looking in the trending section to find answers.

You raise valid points and while I disagree with you on the whole, you are right that some aspects do need changing to keep steemit as a credible platform in the long run. Content and community is what will set steemit apart if it is to succeed.

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I don't see rok or stella complaining and they had to work their way up like everyone else. I understand that spam bots are not beneficial, but I don't see any reason not to encourage bots and botlists of those who are heavily invested. It should encourage users to want to create content that would warrant being on a list. Essentially a sponsorship. I'm not saying it was at all easy for me to figure out, and not everyone is good at blogging, and I do not consider myself a great writer, but I saw what posts did well and adopted pieces of them and made them my own

I don't think those who don't support the current reward system are poor intentioned as a whole (as I too have changes I hope will be implemented), but I think many are short sighted and see steemit as a place to come get rich and leave. We can continue to disagree. We both have valuable opinions and I'm glad you brought up these points in an appropriate manner.

The double standard is:

"I personally believe that those upset with whales and bots are looking at this from a viewpoint of needing to grab as much money as possible as quickly as possible due to jealousy. "

People who object to bots and botlists do so becausse of greed, jealousy, stupidity and being shitty people.

rok and bella both care a lot about their votes and use them when they see great content. Whales don't necessarily look at each post and choose to upvote it.

People like rok and bella support the bots becasue they care about the system and theyre great people.

and if you think there's any problem with the way awards are apportioned, its because youre jealous.

You assume one side of a debate has good intentions, and the other has bad. thats a double standard.

Just as a side note, and speaking of double standards... if the minnows and dolphins can automate their votes, that fair game too, right.

Minnows and dolphins can automate votes if they want, but it will make much less impact than whales, and minnows have barely any vested interest (steem power wise). I'm not exactly sure if that was your question or not, but hopefully that is along lines of what you were talking about.