I know this is probably almost impossible, but would there be a way to "recalculate" post values for a trending page based on "users not named (insert all bid bots names here)" so that you could see what was actually trending as opposed to what it's doing now. I'm sure it would be nearly impossible to do, but something to look into to solve the issue of the trending page simply being bought.
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Program wise I think it would be possible. I'm not a programmer though. I do know that I can do something similar using excel & SteemSQL though it wouldn't be exact as I'd have to use the current VP and not the VP at the time of the vote.
sadly, your statement is beyond my brain, and i dont understand lol... i need a @patrice 101 lingo course. if you have a chance educate me on your statement here so i can better understand it :)
This might be a question that either @ausbitbank , @themarkymark, @patrice or some of the big names that understand how to clean up the platform. I think the Bid Bots are part of the platform from what i understand. But agreed, how would trending be aggregated... perhaps comments vs votes ratio. I think we'd have to identify a different measuring stick for how trending is calculated vs price value. I think we'd need to create something that has a measuring stick of engagement vs price value. but thats my thoughts. IM sure these guys will chime in and provide some depth here.
I think a customizable trending is key to a successful steemit makeover. This could be done by implementing toggles that show/hide types of content from trending. For example hide these tags and “bots boosted content”.
I am not a fan of blindly hiding bot boosted content and its not because I run @buildawhale. Should someone be punished if they spent 1 SBD to promote a post and it went viral? (I kind of laugh at the word viral and Steemit). What if they spent 10 SBD? 100 SBD? Where do you draw the line? Where do I? Where does Bob?
What about Utopia? They are a bot when you boil it down. Dmania? dlive?
Pocket SP and self voting delegation is just as common and in fact I believe more so.
Trending is a big problem for lots of people but there are two camps on this.
Average user who wants trending to be usable for them.
Whales and investors who see trending as the front page of Steemit and what potential investors and influencers see and decide if Steemit is worth getting involved in.
These are very different needs but equally important.
agreed on the toggles. I think a visibility option would be idea for trending to have some value based on use. And agreed on the average user vs the whale user...
What would you think the Default page would be after log in? Do you think trending would command that default slot or would "my feed" ?
I think your points are great. and i will add in some sorting toggles on the trending tab. So in your opinion "trending" still has value and shouldnt be removed, it should just become smarter?