Bots
It was not that long into my Steemit experience that the botting started to occur. The arguments ensued about whether or not botting was taking away from the reward pool and only putting money into the pockets of the creators. There was a time that I didn't use bots, but then I started once someone showed me how to do it.
The type of botting I do is usually only $3-$6 SBD, and I do not consider this an over-botting number. Some of us feel that to bot a little bit as a tool is not a bad thing, and we can live with this small number. There are quite a few folks I know of that bot upwards of $200 per post and many of them are crap posts, at least in my opinion. A few times my internet connection got jammed up and my entire wallet emptied out into a damn bot. That was not a good week, especially when STEEM/SBD went down so my payout was so much lower. A loss.
You might be wondering where am I going with this? Well, this past week one of my good friends @eonwarped wrote a great post (as he usually does) entitled, We are the Prisoners, and that got me to thinking about my progress here on Steemit. Fortunately, I was adopted through the Taskmaster initiative with @preparedwombat and graduated. Within six months time I made it to 1,000 SP, and with a lot of hard work accomplished an almost unsurmountable feat, or at least what I thought at the time.
After graduation, I started to invest in a lot of groups that helped boost noobs and the community. I've made a lot of changes in this area and I'm still trying to find those that work. If groups tend to be on the unfriendly or rude side, I see no point in continuing my support. If the group is helping those in dire need or truly showing how they are helping the community, that is where I'm trying to send my support.
Steem Basic Income
Mind you, I'm still a small fish swimming in a big fish tank. It's not like I have thousands to invest yet. With the way things are going you never know, I may get there soon enough. But back to bots. It was suggested to me to stop using bots and try #steembasicincome (SBI) as it not only helps me with shares, it will help someone else too, and help the community. Well this all sounds good and all, but I wanted numbers.
Interestingly, I was given my first SBI when I was a noob even though I didn't know what it was and it was by one of my first admirer's that has either left Steemit or this was a second account. I still miss him dearly @tt-dogg is and always will be my Boo! So over the last six months I've accumulated a total of 11 shares through contests and gifts. I needed more information so I dug further.
The last couple of days I've been running some numbers and asking questions to those who have used SBI to a great extent, like @dynamicgreentk who I admire greatly for his work on Steemit. He's helping so many people from many cultures and third world countries. Not only guiding with teachings but encouraging by example. I even talked to the creator of SBI @josephsavage who just had a baby, so congrats to him on his new bundle of joy!
So, in my conversation with the both men I received the following information. For example, if someone holds 500 shares the total return is 1.25 STU that converts to:
18-20% curation reward, so roughly 0.50 USD in STEEM and 0.50 SBD, which is actually more
well, at current premiums, that does come out to about 1.25 per post, or $12.50 per week. That's about 1 STEEM per share per year with full upvote bonus.
This may not be the same return as botting, but a step in the direction I'd like to take my Steemit experience. Yes I stillfeel that if one bot's in low amounts it does have a return. If someone is over-botting then they are taking away from the reward pool and taking advantage, and something I am not in support of. This is just my opinion and consistently working with the bots and researching other's wallets and botting techniques.
The other thing to remember in all of this in regards to SBI is that (even in their full disclosure) reports there will be a slight upset with HF20 and HF21. The following is what will occur, as stated by @josephsavage:
The impact from HF20 to be minimal, the way that we do our upvotes ignores tags, so communities changes won't have any impact. we will look into whether we want to support our own tag with additional support, but most likely will not be once we get the rest of our systems in place, we will launch something new that gives SBI members a 'community support score' and provides a little extra support to the people that are building and supporting communities.
The above statement makes a lot of sense and brought comfort to my soul. He continued with:
The biggest change will be in the way curation rewards are handled. most of our members have their auto-votes at 0 minutes, which means our author reward will decline by 25% after HF20 goes live once there is an actual release date for HF20 we will start an information campaign to get our biggest supporters onto 15 minute upvotes instead of 0, so they can get some actual curation from that instead of it just being lost.
The above words were encouraging and at least gave me ease, since at least I know this guy is REAL and thinking ahead. He goes on:
HF21 will probably have a bigger impact, but depends a lot on whether SMT's with oracles create their own 'walled gardens' or just condensers that trend their own tokens it depends on what SMT's actually come out and gain prominence the biggest pre-sale now is appics, and they claim that they will be doing all new accounts (no existing accounts) my plan for SMT's is to run regular analysis on which SMT's our membership base are buying most heavily and analyze how their distro models would work with SBI my plan for SMT's is to run regular analysis on which SMT's our membership base are buying most heavily and analyze how their distro models would work with SBI wherever it makes sense, we would build a stake in that SMT so that SBI upvotes confer STEEM and tokens.
With all of my questions, I got answers and if anyone knows me, they know I can drill someone pretty hard. Well Savage came up with logical and coherent answers straightaway. So I thank him for all of this information, and now he can refer to this blog-post for anyone who has the same questions about SBI. Just kidding!
Some pertinent information I should include is that if you upvote at 100% that will double your SBI, and if you delegate to @steembasicincome you will receive 1 SBI per every 20 SP you delegate.
With these new calculations I am now up to 32 SBI.
According to many groups I'm interacting with SBI is one of the best ways to support the Steemit community without raping the rewards pool and maintain healthy relationships. I'm inclined to agree.
Giveaway
This leads me to the Giveaway I am now holding for those that wish to receive 1 SBI each, which in turn helps me to wean myself from botting!
In order for me to get to a number that I am used to as far as getting what I receive on my posts, this means that I will have to invest quite a bit of STEEM and/or win a lot of contests. Hopefully, a little of both.
Rules
This week I will start off with a Raffle the good ole #steemsilvergold way and all you need to do is leave a comment (1 entry) below using the phrase I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process. I look at comments since I am a top engager on Steemit, so of course making me laugh will give you an up.
If you would like to upvote (1 entry) and resteem (1 entry) you are more than welcome to but it is not mandatory. If you choose to do so then you will receive more entries into the Raffle.
Only one person will win 1 SBI but you can receive 3 entries for doing all of the above. Five winners will be announced at payout of this post. Good luck!!
Greetings,
Thank you for stopping by to read my blog. I’m a First Nation member of the Hopi & Apache Native American tribes, Medicine woman in-training, first time blogger since November 2017, (right here on Steemit), paralegal, researcher, and writer based in the Mountains of Colorado, USA. I work closely with fellow planktons and minnows in a few groups by helping them adjust to Steemit and curate quality content. I’m especially interested in finding others who love natural medicine originating from ancient practices, gold and silver, energy work, and the spirit world. Additionally, I'm the creator of #MedicineCardMonday, so if you are interested in receiving a Native American blessing stop by my blog every Monday, or just say hello!
See you soon, @eaglespirit
Let me study more to know about steembasicincome. I would love to support and join
excellent, i encourage the research and sbi enrollment.
i myself have used a bot, maybe 5 times total since i started 10 months ago. i believe they are the scourge of society, and are making the owners of them rich (vp costs nothing, so they are making the sbd bank )
hehe "scourge" well AI maybe but just a baby bot? really?
i hear ya tho, i know a lot of ppl who feel the same way ... many of whom i love a lot! :)
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process.
I too would like to stop using bots and have a more organic income of steem. My account is growing on its own but I've been hitting the bots a little too hard I think. I'm also learning how to control my VP more so as not to short those I wish to support. I realized I was only getting half the value of my upvotes. Thanks for this great post!
@movement19 yay thank you so much and i appreciate the kind support. we need an AA for botting hehe
i agree, bc i am doing the same thing. i stopped upvoting my own votes for asher's league and that gave me more funds to play with too. but still, bc of steem lowering and prices drop im doing triple the amount to just one person where it was only 1, and also that dumb "dust." eeekkk
LMAO!!! Great Job, Burdy… You just let "Da Man" speak for himself and did not try and analyze the numbers ;) PROPS!!! Good Write-up.
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I agree, we should use this as rewards in the MBC, Great Idea you had!
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process.
But i am busy... So No...
I can't support you alone, i will call my friends to join the support
@sparrowbernard yikes, i'm not sure i got you in this time. i'll let you know when the next one comes around. lol
This post finally crossed my radar, and following your logic here I figured out the disconnect between your 32 and what I have in the sheet.
The upvote bonus is based on hitting the upvote target over the past 28 days, so turning on the auto-voter does not immediately give you a full bonus. Your upvote % has not reached 100% of our posts over rolling 28 days yet, which is why you don't have your 32 Adjusted shares (what we call the resulting share count you used in your post) yet. As your upvote consistency builds, your upvote bonus builds, and then you will have the 32 adjusted shares. (More, actually.)
Sweeheeettt thanks! I'm glad you came to confirm and I featured this post in a "pimp your post" feature so it will continue to gain momentum. I really appreciate the clarity so I can be on track and give accurate info. Thanks again! :)
I appreciate your effort to get the accurate information out.
@josephsavage thank you so much and commenting your support. i really appreciate it!
I am so very, sincerely sorry I killed you. It was a mistake and a major plot flaw in my story and I vow to never let it happen again. lol
I love SBI and I have hosted several contests myself in the past. I feel it is a great initiative and a much better alternative than bots. The idea of helping others while helping yourself is something I adore about steemit and I hope to see more of it in the future.
oh dammmnnn i friggen forgot all about that, hilarious!!! okay, thank you for your input. did you want to enter the contest? Buahahahaah you have to use the phrase ... or have you opted out?
Lol apparently I need reading lessons as well! I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process.
awesome entered x2
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process. Thank you my friend.👍
sweet you are entered x2
Thank you my friend🌹
anytime ☠️
Thank you for this post and all the wonderful work you have done in different community groups! I didn't think too much about SBI at first because the concept of Universal Basic Income hasn't quite produced the results people expected in the real world, and I wondered how it might translate to Steemit. But I think if you have the right people like @josephsavage steering it in the direction of supporting people that support communities (as clearly shown by the groups that support @steembasicincome) then I am all for it!
excellent! are you in or opting out of the giveaway?
I am opting out because I want it to spread to people who don't already have SBI, and hopefully people will still see that it's not the bots that are bad but there are people who make bad choices with their bots...
awww you are so so sweet!! now if only you are willing to donate irvines image to me... you will be loved forevahhh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👽🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Congratulations! This post has been upvoted from the communal account, @minnowsupport, by Eagle Spirit from the Minnow Support Project. It's a witness project run by aggroed, ausbitbank, teamsteem, theprophet0, someguy123, neoxian, followbtcnews, and netuoso. The goal is to help Steemit grow by supporting Minnows. Please find us at the Peace, Abundance, and Liberty Network (PALnet) Discord Channel. It's a completely public and open space to all members of the Steemit community who voluntarily choose to be there.
If you would like to delegate to the Minnow Support Project you can do so by clicking on the following links: 50SP, 100SP, 250SP, 500SP, 1000SP, 5000SP.
Be sure to leave at least 50SP undelegated on your account.
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process. Who wouldn't?
Lol! excellent, youre in!!
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process. I have considered doing this but have not as of yet. I will one day though.
its a great way of giving and receiving! you are IN, somehow i have to figure out whose upvoted and resteemed 🤣🤣
entered x3
Go to steemworld.org/@eaglespirit. It will give you that info.
okay thank you my brother xx
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process.
However, if I do win, please let me know as I would like to dedicate that SBI to others in my community. Lets keep the newbie support spirit going!
sure thing!!! you are IN!!
Thank you for your continued support of SteemSilverGold
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process. How do we really support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project if it is within our capability? I have been in the platform for about 5 months plus. Do hope things work out well for us! Cheers and congrats for your achievement so far!
its just by supporting this initiative just as youve done! youre entered! :)
"I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process."
I haven't gotten into SBI yet but I've heard great things. I've also bee trying to figure out how to get a better ROI without using bots, but I'm on the verge of trying them... At least to see what happens. I like where you're going with this. Thanks for the great article and the chance to win in the giveaway!
yay!!!! thank you for your kind words and loving support !! big big hugssssss
YOU are Entered!! :)
Ok, I think I finally understand what SBI is :) Thank you for this explanation, I am sure it will make a great impact on some. 💚
yay!! so glad you found the info helpful, yes sbi is very helpful to the community in its entirety
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process. Thank you for the eye opener
yay!! thank you for your support! you are entered
SBI is awesome!!
I try to avoid bots as much as possible, only use qustodian...and/or buy some upvotes with minnowbooster when the ROI is favorable...right now it isn't I guess because of drastic drops in STEEM prices etc...
yay !! thank you for your support and encouragement!! the drop in price tho 😭😭😭😭
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process!
LETS GO SBI!
yayyayayya thanks and you are Entered!!
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process!
Somehow, it sounds like you are weaning the bot...
Anyway, I think I am in the stage that you are now exiting. Sending SBD to the bots, to have it come out as a bit of SP and more importantly, visibility. Will be nice to stop doing that, but it really is a bit of a habit now!
you and me both bengy!! hugs
thats why im
also slowly decreasing my bot amounts too. 😆
its hard, i got the shakes —— you are Entered!
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process.
Also, this was a very elaborate post, and quite detailed. With SBI and many autovotes (from communities), the main downside is that it is more difficult to calculate the genuine/organic payout. It's something I'd be interested to know. I guess that's why we leave comments and intereact though. The payout was never telling of how the post is doing etc, and I love the SBI concept.
so if you get 500 shares the payout is approx 1.25 right now and equals about $12 usd per week. welcome aboard! you are Entered!
it does fluctuate with steem prices, did you want more details, bc that was pretty specific. what other info would be needed? as i said i now have 32 shares so a long way to go to make what i would posting 2x a day $3-6 sbd per post. this is just another way for me to wean off botting as i work my way up and also help others. i will need to figure something else out to supplement too. :p
I find that's a very very long-term investment, which is worth but at the same time, I understand that not everyone can hold on to their earnings for long. The most that need the money usually withdraw it frequently. I need to get back to the game and enter contests and stuff.
very true, however, this is another avenue for thise in need to hold a share and regular income coming in too. therefore, they will not totally wipe their account out. this ensures something is still in the “bank” for them so to speak. :)
Great initiative from you @eaglespirit. Bravo. Hoping yoi can help more plankton to rise. I will help you resteem for this.
thanks so much for your support!! :)
cheers
cheers
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process.
I appreciate this well researched post & your goal to promote steemit growth. Congratutions on 200 days!
yay!! you are entered!!
thanks for the encouragement woot
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process.
It's up to two months now since I used a bidbots if not more than, I don't see it as something very encouraging to newbie, I've come to hunt the more for #steembasicincome than spending my hard earned sbd on bidbot, to make the matter worse the amount of Upvote is subjected to steem price at the market.
yesyes yesss you are who i mesd around to encourage me!! :) You are entered! :)
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process.
Thank you for the opportunity!
awesomesauce!!! YOU ARE ENTERED ...
I am still in my experimental phase (maybe we all are?) with Steem content creation, curation, and bot use. I haven't found my "formula" yet, nor have I decided what I am/am not in agreement with as far as promotion technique are concerned.
I will have to begin researching @steembasicincome to better understand what they do and how it works.
yeah i am right there too, finding a happy balance with a lil bit of income ... nothing crazy or taking advantage of the pool.
well the above info has links and is straight from the creator's "mouth." i always encourage research. trust but verify.
Interesting to read about this. I only used a bot once before, the @treeplanter bot. I also got interested in SBI by an offer I found with @retinox so I decided to pass it on and do some of my own, I just posted my second give away. There are all these small cool communities here, I also talk to the @ecotrain guys and it's exciting to be part of these things, even in my small way.
What do you think of the @treeplanter bot? It seems like a genuine project and not taking advantage, it's also a charity project.
i may have seen the treeplanter bot once, do you know much about it? that can be my next research project. lol
ive supported sneaky-ninja on low amounts and only before 3 days payout or it can get tagged by mean cat or mean puppy. but that bot helps tarc and hope projects.
i dont know much about ecotrain either ... i tried going into the group but didnt really understand it. any pointers is much appreciated. :)
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process.
And I think I've told you this before, but your EagleSpirit Art is freakin awesome!!
yay! YOU ARE ENTERED my friend ...
oh thanks so much re: the art ... he did such an awesome job and i'm glad you like it!! eeeeeyaaahhhh
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process.
This is a great idea!
@artemisnorth yay YOU Are Entered and thank you for the support. :)
I would love to support Eagle Spirit's bot weaning project and receive 1 SBI in the process.
Joy
gotcha entered
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