Many many people can see the flaws - when one is in the thick of things, seeing the lumber within the arboretum can be a challenge.
Humour is a cool tool.
Thanks for the reply, appreciate it
Namaste!I hear you, @the-ego-is-you, I think if everyone stands back from the situation and manages to be a little self-deprecating and humble, the mist of ire will retreat.
Personally, I'd much more appreciate it if the cool heads with the greater thinking skills got involved in the discussion and brought some sense with them, but I can understand your point of view.
Be well.
(And feel free to "flag" me back if you dissagree btw, I have made my thoughts on downvoting clear in my profile.)
To be honest, I am not sure why you would downvote a flippant lob from the sidelines as the perpetrators justify and counter-justify.
What does your downvote achieve?
I have never downvoted and I do not intend to start here.
I am just curious as to why you might do that and what it means to me - I really have no clue!
I consider it an apropriate way to make the community more accustomed to seeing downvotes again (even if they are still marked with a confusing flag), when I disagree with something and want to adjust potential rewards of any kind for that content. I've also written just a little bit in my profile description about my voting and downvoting behaviours.
I hope it means very little to you in terms of your view of me, as I mean no offence by it and I'm not hurting your reputation or even hiding your comment.
I agree. We need an end to this. Problem is I'm not sure what better ways I have than making my voice heard about it.
The better aspect to it is that I've actually seen certain changes in style of these debates that I'm very happy with and that seem to be happening due to discussion where I've been contributing with constructive criticism for both sides of the fence rather than attempting to fence down either side.
Looking forward to seing a longer post about how your Oracle would work in a situation such as this one.
Mind you, I generally think in abstract, slightly sci-fi overtones. As an atheist, I see no reason for religion other than blind faith. However, I do think I have some sort of insight into human psychology that enables me to dig into someone's mind, for the purpose of greater understanding. This comes and goes and is linked to the work I'm doing to destroy my ego. My teacher in this line of thinking is Nikola Tesla. His dream of bringing decentralized energy wirelessly to the masses was smashed by the greed machine-fueled men of his time.
This is a timeless war, and has never been won. This war we're seeing in Steemit is a microcosm of the same battle that has been fought since the very beginning. This thing could easily fail if those in power do not look within themselves to see that the answers reside in their hearts. IF they continue to act out of ego, it won't be pretty and most users will look for alternatives. I don't want this place to be Myspaced but the reality is, competition is coming, and someone WILL GET IT RIGHT. Monetizing content on a social media platform has never succeeded for the reasons we see going on now. Decentralization of power is THE ANSWER.
We couldn't have more different views on what the ego is and what role it has in our lives. I created the profile using this name, with my disagrement with the kind of ideas you express in mind.
(I'm an atheist too btw and a hardboiled anti-theist)
At the same time, I think at least that I can understand and see your point of view. (The essentials, in this particular case. I don't want to accidentally suggest omniscience)
Irrational behaviour, however it looks is always destructive to the self and that which is destructive for the self is always evil.
Rather than continueing a discussion on this forever, I will simply say that I see your Oracle as possibly being an interesting solution to some of these issues.
@stellabelle I'm getting really tired of you constantly pushing the subject. Maybe if you'd drop it, everyone else would as well. But, you gotta get that attention right? Getting involved in issues regardless of whether or not the involve you just to get some attention seems to be your MO (besides whining about never getting my votes, which you have brought up every single time we've had a conversation).
We all know there are people on all different sides that want the attention. But as both you, I and @stellabelle have aluded to in our own ways and from our own perspectives, I'm sure that we can agree some behaviours are best ignored and not fed even more.
Good night for now bernie, bella, I need to put myself to bed over here and there's another day tomorrow.
For anyone participating or just reading alike:
More transparency please. Less suprise flags or posts as a result of what happened in the shaddows. @berniesanders@smooth@dantheman ozchartart I hope you see my message too.
I have no interest in discussing anything about my posts and your voting behavior. That is of little interest to me. You already answered my questions about that topic and I was satisfied with your answers. I offered to talk to you about anything you wish to talk about. It was an open invitation to chat about whatever is on your mind.
Discussion and argument both fulfill their respective purposes. No discussion without arguments to be presented.
Many many people can see the flaws - when one is in the thick of things, seeing the lumber within the arboretum can be a challenge.
Humour is a cool tool.
Thanks for the reply, appreciate it
Namaste!I hear you, @the-ego-is-you, I think if everyone stands back from the situation and manages to be a little self-deprecating and humble, the mist of ire will retreat.
Personally, I'd much more appreciate it if the cool heads with the greater thinking skills got involved in the discussion and brought some sense with them, but I can understand your point of view.
Be well.
(And feel free to "flag" me back if you dissagree btw, I have made my thoughts on downvoting clear in my profile.)
/Thomas
To be honest, I am not sure why you would downvote a flippant lob from the sidelines as the perpetrators justify and counter-justify.
What does your downvote achieve?
I have never downvoted and I do not intend to start here.
I am just curious as to why you might do that and what it means to me - I really have no clue!
I consider it an apropriate way to make the community more accustomed to seeing downvotes again (even if they are still marked with a confusing flag), when I disagree with something and want to adjust potential rewards of any kind for that content. I've also written just a little bit in my profile description about my voting and downvoting behaviours.
I hope it means very little to you in terms of your view of me, as I mean no offence by it and I'm not hurting your reputation or even hiding your comment.
Discussion is great but the war between Dan And Bernie is getting really old. We are tired of it.
I agree. We need an end to this. Problem is I'm not sure what better ways I have than making my voice heard about it.
The better aspect to it is that I've actually seen certain changes in style of these debates that I'm very happy with and that seem to be happening due to discussion where I've been contributing with constructive criticism for both sides of the fence rather than attempting to fence down either side.
Looking forward to seing a longer post about how your Oracle would work in a situation such as this one.
Mind you, I generally think in abstract, slightly sci-fi overtones. As an atheist, I see no reason for religion other than blind faith. However, I do think I have some sort of insight into human psychology that enables me to dig into someone's mind, for the purpose of greater understanding. This comes and goes and is linked to the work I'm doing to destroy my ego. My teacher in this line of thinking is Nikola Tesla. His dream of bringing decentralized energy wirelessly to the masses was smashed by the greed machine-fueled men of his time.
This is a timeless war, and has never been won. This war we're seeing in Steemit is a microcosm of the same battle that has been fought since the very beginning. This thing could easily fail if those in power do not look within themselves to see that the answers reside in their hearts. IF they continue to act out of ego, it won't be pretty and most users will look for alternatives. I don't want this place to be Myspaced but the reality is, competition is coming, and someone WILL GET IT RIGHT. Monetizing content on a social media platform has never succeeded for the reasons we see going on now. Decentralization of power is THE ANSWER.
We couldn't have more different views on what the ego is and what role it has in our lives. I created the profile using this name, with my disagrement with the kind of ideas you express in mind.
(I'm an atheist too btw and a hardboiled anti-theist)
At the same time, I think at least that I can understand and see your point of view. (The essentials, in this particular case. I don't want to accidentally suggest omniscience)
Irrational behaviour, however it looks is always destructive to the self and that which is destructive for the self is always evil.
Rather than continueing a discussion on this forever, I will simply say that I see your Oracle as possibly being an interesting solution to some of these issues.
@stellabelle I'm getting really tired of you constantly pushing the subject. Maybe if you'd drop it, everyone else would as well. But, you gotta get that attention right? Getting involved in issues regardless of whether or not the involve you just to get some attention seems to be your MO (besides whining about never getting my votes, which you have brought up every single time we've had a conversation).
We all know there are people on all different sides that want the attention. But as both you, I and @stellabelle have aluded to in our own ways and from our own perspectives, I'm sure that we can agree some behaviours are best ignored and not fed even more.
Good night for now bernie, bella, I need to put myself to bed over here and there's another day tomorrow.
/Thomas
if you want to talk in steemit chat, i'm game.
For anyone participating or just reading alike:
More transparency please. Less suprise flags or posts as a result of what happened in the shaddows. @berniesanders @smooth @dantheman ozchartart I hope you see my message too.
I have no desire to answer why I don't vote on your posts for the fifth time. I'll pass.
I have no interest in discussing anything about my posts and your voting behavior. That is of little interest to me. You already answered my questions about that topic and I was satisfied with your answers. I offered to talk to you about anything you wish to talk about. It was an open invitation to chat about whatever is on your mind.