Yep. Yet it is surprising how often people suggest things as a solution that all it requires is another account. Thus, why I said it might slow down the problem, but wouldn't eliminate it.
I ultimately think going with a 2nd reward pool just for comments might be the way to go. Then these activities won't hurt posts so bad, but the comment pool might end up being pretty worthless and cutthroat.
One thing I like about Steemit is the willingness of most folks to experiment. With such a complicated system, involving people with different motives and ways of engaging with each other, it's hard to predict what any change will actually produce. Quick testing and adjustment is a difficult thing to pull off with so many parts, but I've been impressed with what Steemit's been able to do. I hope they do some sort of adjustment, but active comments are key to keeping people on the site -- and to initiating enough transactions to help demonstrate the blockchain capabilities.
Yeah comments should definitely stay. Yet people abusing the comments by posting a lot of them and self-upvoting them all is draining the entire pool and will be impacting the payouts for posts as well. It seems like segregating them would keep either from being able to adversely effect the others.
I like comments a lot. I up vote a lot of comments. I keep my % at around 1% at the moment so I can up vote a lot of them, but I still do. I like to encourage discussion.
I've been able to keep my % at 15% for comments, with very little impact on my voting power -- and I fling those comment upvotes around like there is no tomorrow.
That's interesting. I know you have lots and lots of curation rewards, so you are clearly an active and skilled curator! But we aren't too far apart in the number of upvotes we've handed out - at least according to Steemwhales.com and Steemitboard.com.
That is probably the case. If you hand out votes too quickly your voting percentage is drained and your vote is no longer as beneficial for the people you vote for. Also, I don't care about curation rewards. They are not that significant unless you have a lot of power. The most I've made from curation rewards in a week ever was around 80 steem power. Though I stopped doing that method as it was not my interest. That was 80 steem power when I was around 16K or 17K steem power.
To make the most curation rewards you kind of play the game at picking the things you think will be worth the most and being early to that vote. I didn't exactly do that so I could have gotten more.
I decided that only voting for things I am actually interested in and encouraging people to continue to make things and talk about things I am interested in is what I prefer, whether that post is going to be popular or not is irrelevant to me. It was popular with me. So if Steemwhales says I have a lot of curation rewards keep in mind I don't so much care about getting tons of curation rewards. I do like to keep my voting % as high as I can keep it so my votes that I do tend to give out are worth more.
You can check that at steemdb.com, or busy.org shows it right on your profile.
EDIT: Though you only started a month after I did, so it wouldn't surprise you to have more votes than me. I was part of steem-trail for awhile and voted with them. I did that up until about a week after HF19 which is likely why I have good curation rewards. After HF19 I noticed they were draining a lot of my voting pool, and they were mostly voting on all of the -trail posts and with a pretty good payout. This gave me decent curation rewards, but it left me not being able to vote for who I wanted to, plus I didn't think me doing that was going to be about them using my power to vote on those trail posts. My problem with the trail posts is they always made far more than the people they were reporting on. I didn't think that was right. I would rather they had used my power to vote on the other people's posts they were writing about in their trail blogs so I pulled out of that a few weeks ago.
Yep. Yet it is surprising how often people suggest things as a solution that all it requires is another account. Thus, why I said it might slow down the problem, but wouldn't eliminate it.
I ultimately think going with a 2nd reward pool just for comments might be the way to go. Then these activities won't hurt posts so bad, but the comment pool might end up being pretty worthless and cutthroat.
One thing I like about Steemit is the willingness of most folks to experiment. With such a complicated system, involving people with different motives and ways of engaging with each other, it's hard to predict what any change will actually produce. Quick testing and adjustment is a difficult thing to pull off with so many parts, but I've been impressed with what Steemit's been able to do. I hope they do some sort of adjustment, but active comments are key to keeping people on the site -- and to initiating enough transactions to help demonstrate the blockchain capabilities.
Yeah comments should definitely stay. Yet people abusing the comments by posting a lot of them and self-upvoting them all is draining the entire pool and will be impacting the payouts for posts as well. It seems like segregating them would keep either from being able to adversely effect the others.
I like comments a lot. I up vote a lot of comments. I keep my % at around 1% at the moment so I can up vote a lot of them, but I still do. I like to encourage discussion.
I've been able to keep my % at 15% for comments, with very little impact on my voting power -- and I fling those comment upvotes around like there is no tomorrow.
That hasn't worked for me. :)
That's interesting. I know you have lots and lots of curation rewards, so you are clearly an active and skilled curator! But we aren't too far apart in the number of upvotes we've handed out - at least according to Steemwhales.com and Steemitboard.com.
That is probably the case. If you hand out votes too quickly your voting percentage is drained and your vote is no longer as beneficial for the people you vote for. Also, I don't care about curation rewards. They are not that significant unless you have a lot of power. The most I've made from curation rewards in a week ever was around 80 steem power. Though I stopped doing that method as it was not my interest. That was 80 steem power when I was around 16K or 17K steem power.
To make the most curation rewards you kind of play the game at picking the things you think will be worth the most and being early to that vote. I didn't exactly do that so I could have gotten more.
I decided that only voting for things I am actually interested in and encouraging people to continue to make things and talk about things I am interested in is what I prefer, whether that post is going to be popular or not is irrelevant to me. It was popular with me. So if Steemwhales says I have a lot of curation rewards keep in mind I don't so much care about getting tons of curation rewards. I do like to keep my voting % as high as I can keep it so my votes that I do tend to give out are worth more.
You can check that at steemdb.com, or busy.org shows it right on your profile.
EDIT: Though you only started a month after I did, so it wouldn't surprise you to have more votes than me. I was part of steem-trail for awhile and voted with them. I did that up until about a week after HF19 which is likely why I have good curation rewards. After HF19 I noticed they were draining a lot of my voting pool, and they were mostly voting on all of the -trail posts and with a pretty good payout. This gave me decent curation rewards, but it left me not being able to vote for who I wanted to, plus I didn't think me doing that was going to be about them using my power to vote on those trail posts. My problem with the trail posts is they always made far more than the people they were reporting on. I didn't think that was right. I would rather they had used my power to vote on the other people's posts they were writing about in their trail blogs so I pulled out of that a few weeks ago.