What are "whales" and what is an "active period" of an article?
Hi #steemit,
I've been learning as much about #steemit as possible over recent days and have come across mention of all sorts of bizarre terminology including "whales" and "active articles".
What is a #steemit #whale?
FAQ: With your help I will update this article with answers as we develop them
Q: What is a whale?
- A: @cryptobarry - Steemit users who have a large Steem Power holding are able to influence rewards by upvoting. I recommend that new users check out the white paper: https://steem.io/SteemWhitePaper.pdf
Q: Can you show me an example?
- A: unknown
Q: What effect can a whale have on an artcile if they #upvote?
- A: @jacor Easiest Explanation of the power of a Whale's vote is to look at the stats below I removed the votes from Whales in graph below:
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Earnings with Whale Voting:
And these are small examples, when a pod of whales hunt together, they can easily push the value up to $600 even a $1000 :0
- A: @jacor Easiest Explanation of the power of a Whale's vote is to look at the stats below I removed the votes from Whales in graph below:
Q: What impact does a whale have when they upvote comments?
- A: @full-measure When a whale upvotes an article it makes quite the splash! Whales, for the most part, will determine which posts get the most attention and which posts make the most money. This makes sense, since the whales are the most heavily invested in the platform, and therefore have the most incentive to select worthwhile material.
Q: Do their votes affect the #trending and/or #hot functionality?
- A: @full-measure ...the more STEEM POWER you have, the more impact you have. So like, you can't just get 100 of your friends to make accounts and upvote you.. the upvote only matters proportional to how much that person has invested in the platform. And a "whale" just means there will be a ton of STEEM POWER behind one single vote. (There's no specific point where someone becomes a whale, it just means they have a bunch of STEEM POWER.)
Q: How does someone become a #whale, do they have to make a lot of posts or receive a lot of upvotes?
- A: @full-measure The surest way to become a whale would be to buy a lot of STEEM POWER, if you're wealthy enough to do it. If that's not an option, you'll have to earn it. It might take a long time, or a lot of luck, to post your way into being a whale. But there's nothing wrong with being a dolphin.
Q: Have all whales made a lot of money on #steemit?
- A: @full-measure Whales have not necessarily made a lot of money on Steemit. Any user who chooses to purchase STEEM POWER can do so, and would then be considered a whale if they bought enough. In general those with a lot of STEEM POWER have probably profited a lot, since they'll tend to be interested in providing good content and since STEEM has risen in price, but anyone with deep enough pockets could become a whale right now.
Q: How long does it take to become a whale?
- A: unknown
Q: How do you catch a whale? :-)
*A: unknown
What is an active article?
Q: What is an active article?
- A: unknown
Q: Does an article get removed or deleted after a period of time?
- A: unknown
Q: What is this period of time?
- A: unknown
Q: Can you ever get the article back or reopened?
- A: unknown
Q: What happens to an article that is not active, does it not appear in "ternding", is it no longer searchable on/off-site?
- A: unknown
Q: @busser voting and curating, is it the same thing? If so, why in history there are strings "curating reward"? upvoting result I see in SP .
- A: unknown
Has anyone been #whaled
...is that even a term? :)
Useful articles
@sictransitgloria Some answers for articles here: https://steemit.com/steem/@sictransitgloria/recommended-for-beginners-steem-currencies-and-rewards-sum-up-1-min-read-update-0-12-2-26-july-2016
And here too: https://steemit.com/newbies/@sictransitgloria/recommended-for-beginners-think-carefully-before-posting-personal-information-the-blockchain-cannot-be-erased-and-can-be-seen-by
Let's build up an FAQ together
Thanks for your help guys
Jimbo
Q: Have all whales made a lot of money on #steemit?
A: Whales have not necessarily made a lot of money on Steemit. Any user who chooses to purchase STEEM POWER can do so, and would then be considered a whale if they bought enough. In general those with a lot of STEEM POWER have probably profited a lot, since they'll tend to be interested in providing good content and since STEEM has risen in price, but anyone with deep enough pockets could become a whale right now.
Thanks for your input. Can you become a whale without purchasing steem power?
It's possible, ya. It would just depend how good you are at posting stuff that gets upvoted. A whale is just someone with a lot of steem power, you can either buy it or earn it by using the site. Obviously it's not easy to make like millions of dollars by posting though.
Just checked your wallet and I was REALLY hoping you had like 12 million STEEM POWER and this was all a troll :) but wasn't meant to be :p
LOL. Nope, I am pretty new to steemit and want to help others with the learning curve. Thanks again, sorry I didn't bump your wallet.
Haha, nothing to be sorry about, friend. If you're not in this for the love of the game you're just not in this.
A FAQ post answering these questions would go a long way stickied to trending.
I will update this post as I gain the answers to help others who are struggling with the learning curve :)
Good idea for the FAQ! Some answers for articles here: https://steemit.com/steem/@sictransitgloria/recommended-for-beginners-steem-currencies-and-rewards-sum-up-1-min-read-update-0-12-2-26-july-2016
And here too: https://steemit.com/newbies/@sictransitgloria/recommended-for-beginners-think-carefully-before-posting-personal-information-the-blockchain-cannot-be-erased-and-can-be-seen-by
Excellent, thanks for digging these out.
I'm not really into writing submissions but I got Whale hugged twice for commenting. That really fueled my interest in this platform and I think a big part of it's success will be a user base that is active commenting on submissions they like.
Thanks for your comments but what actually is it? Would be great if you could take the time to answer my questions. I have a seriously bad habbit of asking WAY TOO MANY QUESTIONS lol :)
Steemit users who have a large Steem Power holding are able to influence rewards by upvoting. I recommend that new users check out the white paper: https://steem.io/SteemWhitePaper.pdf
Cool ty. I've updated the post with your knwoledge. Hope that's cool?
Another question: voting and curating, is it the same thing? If so, why in history there are strings "curating reward"? upvoting result I see in SP .
I believe curating relates to writing artciles and voting is simply showing your appreciation for content by giving it a "thumbs up" :)
No, writing reward is writen this way:blogging reward of 0.457 SD and 0.129 STEEM POWER for busser/ethereum-twins-war
Curating: curation reward of 0.001 STEEM POWER for skapaneas/so-you-made-it-to-the-top-10-trending-posts-on-steemit-what-comes-next
voting isn't seen in history, it' only values in SP.
Ah ok ty, I understand :) Hopefully I can get some more answers for us :)
Easiest Explanation of the power of a Whale's vote is to look at the stats below I removed the votes from Whales in graph below:
vs
Earnings with Whale Voting:
And these are small examples, when a pod of whales hunt together, they can easily push the value up to $600 even a $1000 :0
Excellent, thanks. Well done on the whale hunting :) I've added your comments to the post if that's OK. Is that graph showing in excess of $100 for a single upvote from a single whale or is that a number of votes from a number of whales?
Q: What impact does a whale have when they upvote comments?
A: When a whale upvotes a comment it makes quite the splash! Whales, for the most part, will determine which posts get the most attention and which posts make the most money. This makes sense, since the whales are the most heavily invested in the platform, and therefore have the most incentive to select worthwhile material.
Excellent, thanks again dude. Do their votes affect the #trending and/or #hot functionality?
I'm not sure how exactly those algorithms work, but ya, whales will affect that stuff. Basically how it works is the more STEEM POWER you have, the more impact you have. So like, you can't just get 100 of your friends to make accounts and upvote you.. the upvote only matters proportional to how much that person has invested in the platform. And a "whale" just means there will be a ton of STEEM POWER behind one single vote. (There's no specific point where someone becomes a whale, it just means they have a bunch of STEEM POWER.)
I'm pretty new myself so someone can correct me if any of that is wrong.
Thanks for the comprehensive explanation.
Sure! I'd probably suggest removing this answer from the FAQ .. or re-wording it a little and taking credit for it yourself .. I thought you were just asking off the cuff, I didn't realize it was one of the FAQ questions. Maybe someone who knows for sure how the "trending" and "hot" functions work could put up a better answer .. I was kind of just babbling and didn't mean for it to go on the FAQ :p
But leaving it is fine with me if you want to.
Q: How does someone become a #whale, do they have to make a lot of posts or receive a lot of upvotes?
A: The surest way to become a whale would be to buy a lot of STEEM POWER, if you're wealthy enough to do it. If that's not an option, you'll have to earn it. It might take a long time, or a lot of luck, to post your way into being a whale. But there's nothing wrong with being a dolphin.
Thanks again dude
You're welcome, sir. Hope I helped clear up some of your questions.
You did, thanks man :)
The degree of upvoting seems to be variable. How is this level determined? Price alone or does an algo evaluate the post content too?