I don't think you're pissing in the wind.
It's conversations like these that help lead to reform.
As I'm sure you know, im definitely on the fence about the bots, I use them.
They are definitely flawed and abused, but they also provide the opportunity for everyone to promote their content.
I ground it out for quite some time before I had organically earned enough to really start investing in the content I wanted to create for this platform.
I did that without the use of bots...but...
Then I earned my opportunity to launch my show...
I'm using bots now, but I don't believe I'm abusing them.
I understand the value in advertising, it's proven it's capabilities since its existence.
You can have the best product in the world but if nobody knows it exists, what's it's true value.
I take my project very seriously, I treat it as a business and I believe I have the right to advertise that business so as to help raise awareness of it.
I have however, already stated to any who have asked, that I only intend to use this advertising during these early stages until such point that I don't have to.
Hopefully it doesn't take long. It has been working.
I think personally there are a few ways that some reform can occur quickly.
I think people should check trending regularly, manually downvoting the garbage, driving it down, and upvoting the good content, pushing it up.
I think more bot services can utilize blacklists and encourage better usage through whitelists.
I think more legitimate content creators should utilize these bots as advertising tools.
Even small steps like this can change the face of trending quickly.
I don't believe, as heimendanger has initiated, that blindly flagging is an answer at all.
There's nothing wrong with us wanting better and conversations like this one can help get us there.
We can make things better...together.
Hope you're having a great weekend bud.
(Just realized how long this is, sorry)
By the way, I've started to use the hashtag #advertisedcontent on my show also.
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I am not one who is allowed to complain about lengthy content ;)
There are definitely things to be tried and tested to see if there are indeed better ways than currently. @heimindanger should provide at lease direct links to the content so people can actually judge it rather than blind downvoting. I also think that at the very least that all bots used, big or small, should be visible tagged by the UI as promoted.
As said, there may be some middle ground but that requires the people 'in charge' to join the conversations.