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RE: On Guilds and Managing Expectations

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

I'd partly agree with this. Corrosive is an overstatement though. It's just that SG's payment via posting is unfortunately the main determinant for post positioning in trending. (It could also be argued that it's worse if they're doing it discreetly. As it is, I think it's okay because at least its happening transparently for others to weigh in on what's happening)

That said, of course it makes sense that subpar posts shouldn't take up the trending space so frequently, but again it's not to say that I think all the self-upvoted posts are mediocre (although it looks like its - it's just easy to see it that way if one is already in Steemit long enough because it causes all sorts of butthurt from seeing the same accounts over and over again. I daresay that butthurts will still happen even if an account is over-delivering with great value in trending consistently and all too frequently taking up space in trending).

when people consider joining steemit and take a look at what trends at the top everyday.....they look at that and say to themselves, "Nah, that kinda sucks. I'm not going to waste my time there."

What you've said here may be inconclusive of how outsiders / newbies will think of the trending page, simply because any random mediocre, decent, or excellent posts may be taking up the trending any point in time even without self-votes from SG. The trending could also be entirely filled with shitposts. Which is the whole point of decentralization - you won't agree with everything, and expect it to get "worse" because the world's not going to be in agreement with our tastes all the time.

If a good-looking trending page is what you're fighting for, then it's best to say that the trending page should be filled with posts that'll persuade others to join - "that's kinda good, I think I want to spend time here" - but what are those posts going to be? Everybody is different in their heads. Treasure may be trash to another. Just saying this to drive my point about your statement above. It's more of a reflection of your own thoughts (and most of us in the network) about the matter, not others (outsiders / newbies).

Even if it's entirely true that newbies are "disgusted" by the stuff on trending page, it's more like they want to control what's on trending themselves. Just a fact that most people think their own post (or taste / curation / selection) is the best. Me included.