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RE: Self-Voting: Scammy Behavior, Rational ROI, or Something Else?

in #steemit7 years ago

Great reply, thank you. I agree, Steem has some characteristics which make it unique from bitcoin and certainly adjusts the rewards dynamics. I'm a big fan of the "if everyone did this" exercise. There'd be no quality discovery process and great authors would leave which would lower the search rankings of the site which lowers value for everyone. That's why I think a balance is good. I now only upvote my own posts when I have plenty of voting power to do so. I haven't upvoted a comment of my own in a long time either, but I'm not competely against the idea if I feel my comment is important enough for others that it should be seen first to influence the discussion.

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I concur completely. No comment upvoting for me, but I understand there are reasons where it's acceptable.. I only post 1 or 2 times a day and my vote is only worth 1$ so I upvote them.. 2 votes myself, 8 votes for everyone else feels a good split to me, but I would be fine without the ability to vote on myself too really... I am going to have to leave this account because of my new found flagging war. but I couldnt just let someone say 'yes' in a comment and give themselves 20$, when they didn't upvote the post they commented on in the first place. I am on the short end of the voting power though, so I should have just left him be probably. let him take his 200$ a day from the reward pool.. Live and learn.. Keep doing what you are doing for steemit, need all the goodness we can get, to counteract those few mostly selfish people!

Who are you talking about? Have you asked them why they are doing that before flagging them? I've found those conversations quite interesting.

I did, I told him (dangOO7) why I flagged his comment. How I would unflag it if he removed his own vote. I explained to him that bots are doing exactly what's he is doing in essence. Only in a more healthy way, allowing other people to pay to upvote content they feel is worth it. Told him inertia had the code open sourced. When people pay for a booster or randowhale, they are usually trying to promote something that is more often than not worth it. Things that might add to the Alexa ranking or Google search results. Where as a comment that says 'yes' just isn't worth 20$. I told him to get on steemitchat and message me and I will help him even.. then he went and downvoted 4 of my posts. Commented saying he has to make his money work for him, that it's not a rule.. I compared it to cutting lines. There isn't a law against it. It just makes you a dick, who is bad for the community when you do.. I really really tried to be nice, and helpful. But he had already downvoted most of my posts, so I just went ahead and started flagging back.. the original comment I flagged was him trolling elfspice in one of his posts, he upvoted his own troll comment. And I just said I will remove the flag once he removes his upvote, because it's both a troll comment and removing rewards from the reward pool for a non-contribution. I tried as much as I feel I can. I know not what else to do. Until it's a rule you can't upvote your own comments a few hundred dollars, he will abuse it. This is why we have ridiculous laws irl, because people abuse everything that they can until a law must be made to prevent people from being bad actors. It's all good, I will survive. He did have a point. I invested all I can and it's only 3k Sp, he invested 150k sp. Since he's willing to risk more he should get more rewards. There are just healthy ways and unhealthy ways to do that. I would rather steem become worth 50$ ea. , Then to give myself 10$ worth of self upvotes a day until it collapses and I'm holding bags of self back patting with everyone else. The community is still more good than bad though. I know that. Steemians in general , wabt what's best for steemit. So I still have faith you guys will make this work. I have just been singled out by a less than good member of the community. And I need to step away for a while.. I enjoyed my time on here though. And thanks for all you do, you are appreciated. You rose all the way up through the witnesses in my short time here. It was cool to see, and you deserve it! Keep up the good work!