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RE: Steemit creates accounts for scammers... and nobody else?

in #steemit • 7 years ago

And yet everyone would like more engagement and more real human readers from the top down ... kind of counter productive for the platform 😬

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That's very true.

Ha!! Classic "human behavior" say one thing, but do and mean another. People are full of shit... Which is why"Democracy" doesn't seem to work. It's a battle out there, guys... Knowledge is power!! The ones who can adapt to the new systems will flourish; all else.. well... not so sure. I wonder if this is just a "loophole" these people have found.. How are they creating them ? What do you mean "through the steemit faucet?? I know what a crypto faucet is, but don't get how they'd make an acct through it...

I heard that anyone who downloads/operates a witness-node can just mass-create accounts on the STEEM-blockchain and somehow bypass Steemit.com? Is this true?

Yes but the accounts must be funded. Steemit funds the ones it creates.

You don't need a witness node, there are many ways to create accounts and these accounts would show up as created by a user (like how anonsteem does it) and not via @steem and they wouldn't have the free 15 SP delegation either, only the 3 STEEM used to create the account.

Hmm, okay, and what do you think about this?

An account is just 1 wallet. People tend to forget that because of the social aspect. If it were bitcoin, we make however many we want and we treat them mainly disposable. Lots of people use crypto wallets in scammy ways. For instance, with referrals. Like if coinbase offers 100 with the first 100 deposit and referral, I suppose someone smart enough could do something similar. Since there's no social aspect to the transactions, nobody cares.

We care more about this because it affects our own social user experience. If it didn't, I bet nobody would even care.

@omitaylor
This is too weird, I need time to contemplate this, I feel a bit like a monkey trying to understand how to open up a tin-can right now... And you want me to understand how to make a bunch of tin-cans and fill them up with food and such... I will probably get there but hopefully I don't have to become a "developer" to be able to understand enough and to enjoy and benefit form this platform in a safe manner.

I think this platform is a good experiment but not really one that will be a happy place for most common folks. It's a jungle with smoke and mirrors making it look civilized. And everyone's money is at risk. Simply different personality types alone make it something sort of toxic. There's a lot of enablers, authoritarians, and control freaks trying to make it a horrible place and a lot of the same trying to make it a better place— and a lot of investors large and small caught in their crossfire of their crusades.

Bless us all. If I didn't like a little action I wouldn't be here LOLOLOLOL.

It would be fun to be a whale, a glowing green toxic-whale... (or maybe NOT, I feel kind of shitty when STEEM/SBD's drops, I wonder how a whale feels, some might actually have put like their "life-savings" into this system)... =)

And there is always a bigger fish!


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I don't know a whole lot about this stuff truth be told, I'm cramming and learning it fast and asking a bunch of hard questions because I've been considering getting further involved financially. I appreciate that you recognize my hard work learning it though.

Yeah, it is a bit like a "russian doll", or an onion or a computer game there is always a next level...

@friendly-fenix Absozoobalootly

(You where the one who told me about this @omitaylor!)

=)

I did? I'm losing track of myself. Hahaha.

i wouldnt be surprised if it was some kind of insider scam, honestly.

 7 years ago (edited) 

If by 'insider' you mean Steemit Inc employee(s), they could attempt to enrich themselves in much more lucrative ways, but ultimately just about any attempt would cost them more than they've earned. Economically, it does not make sense for it to be an "inside job."

 7 years ago (edited) 

I guess that makes sense, but the same could be said for any business? Im not implying anything really, im just a natural conspiracy realist is all. lol

 7 years ago (edited) 

now, after a few weeks ive discovered there is quite a bit of fraud going on... this person opines the same- human greed is all the reason one needs, when asking why would someone risk money and reputation to cheat and scam?

i also feel that the more complicated a system is to know or learn, or how opaque a rewards system is, in this case algorithms, it opens itself up to abuse.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@equ1l1br1um/dmania-owner-zombee-is-abusing-steemit-delegation-with-multiple-accounts-stealing-users-chances-of-getting-rewards-and-censors

Take care in presuming everyone is as good at math and game theory as you, even if they are gifted in other, even related, areas.

now, after a few weeks ive discovered there is quite a bit of fraud going on... this person opines the same- human greed is all the reason one needs, when asking why would someone risk money and reputation to cheat and scam?

https://steemit.com/steemit/@equ1l1br1um/dmania-owner-zombee-is-abusing-steemit-delegation-with-multiple-accounts-stealing-users-chances-of-getting-rewards-and-censors

Interesting perspective

yeah, i am quite jaded. lol

interesting perspective, and jaded, yes... and true. (not steemit but dmania looks like) but still, "owners" just the same.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@equ1l1br1um/dmania-owner-zombee-is-abusing-steemit-delegation-with-multiple-accounts-stealing-users-chances-of-getting-rewards-and-censors