Unnecessary downvoting and flagging are akin to weapons of mass destruction that the peaceful world wants to do without(but without much success though).
Let's take some ideas from the real world and act before it becomes too late. The time to nip this issue in the bud is Now - or then never.
Steem Power is not just for gaining interest on your own SP. You're accusing people more powerful than you as a lot of things and not really looking at yourself. I asked you to look at what you were doing some time ago. It seems that was ignored because you continued to feed yourself without ever listening to the voice of those who considered what you were doing to be wrong.
Dan himself would never create this platform without the downvote. It is a necessary compliment to the upvote, so that the community can voice when something is overvalued. I do think that there could be better alternatives to the downvote, but they would still include a system for policing badly curated content. And so the issue that you're having with being downvoted now, and I really didn't want this to happen to you mindhunter because I think you're a valuable member of the community, but that issue you're having would be the same.
So I'm asking you again, to consider how this self-voting on multiple effortless posts is affecting the rest of the community. My own brother posts very like you, just casually, but he rarely if ever upvotes himself 100%. And since being delegated the SP of smooth I'm making efforts to be respectful by not voting selfishly on myself too.
I paid for that power but I also acknowledge that that power is going to become useless to me if I can't maintain the respect of the community through my use of my vote.
Hey bernie ... take a look at this vid ... it's sounding like an echo chamber in here - you sound just like that SJW loser that is @transisto! P.S. Why does all this warring occur when the Steem price goes under $1!?? It always happens! LOL! :)
I respect your progressive stance @beanz but let me pick you up on a few points.
self-voting on multiple effortless posts
Who are you to judge what an effortless post is?? I post many #photography pics which are single shots like every other #photography post - I suppose you will tar them all with the same brush too?? In fact from yesterday I moved back to 4 posts a day. Is that good enough for you??
High SP
As for high SP, both hard left and right views exist on Steemit so that is not for me to say how each individual uses their SP. Whining and jealousy is going to happen whatever the political persuasion.
This is mainly from collectivist progressives who are a real pain in the ass on here! I'd call myself an individualistic liberal - the best place to sit and debate all the Steemit flawed logic that occurs on Steemit on a daily basis!
If you wish to condone me and others with your progressive views to force others to account then that is your choice. If you wish to use reason and logic, then fine.
If your power is delegated, then your priorities are going to be a lot different from mine. I understand that.
I certainly don't want to debate with someone who has an axe to grind and is trying to 'manufacture' community spirit!
I do wish you all the best with your delegated SP @beanz.
I don't force others to account. I merely expressed myself as a member of the community and I care about the community more than the individual, knowing that other people are more cooperative and helpful when I am cooperative and helpful toward them. My brother has a lot more power than what I have delegated and his is not delegated to him.
When you express that the downvote is a flaw simply because you suddenly started losing money through your own voting tendencies, of course I am going to express my right to downvote posts that are benefiting the author more than his audience. And who am I to judge that? I'm an observer and this is what I see! Since when do we have the right to be free from judgement? The photography is not all you post, I have seen you pay yourself heavily for one liners and you are the highest rewarded self voted author on this platform according to the stats.
I'm not going to manufacture community spirit with you. I can see that you don't want to see past your own point of view. I wish you the best with your self-voting. I hope it does not cause you further problems but I can already see that it will.
@beanz - I'm looking for an alternative to flagging not an end to it! I want an end the abusive power from collectivist whales! This is not linked to me in any way. I've made peace with all the whales who flagged me. Many others who are flagged in anger daily are not so fortunate. Have you ever been downflagged? Do you know how humiliating it is?
Finally:
I'm not going to manufacture community spirit with you. I can see that you don't want to see past your own point of view.
Preachy, progressive, moralistic SJW behavior will not work here @beanz - I suggest you look at the log in your own eye.
Let me just bring back the link to the conversation between me, mindhunter and transisto on one of his posts that clarifies mindhunters abuse of the platform and disrespect to whole Steemit community.
There is an ever present battle on Steemit of liberalism Vs. progressivism and whale DV'ing highlights this more than any other sore on the side of Steemit!
In both cases Asher we have the 'best worst solution' ... but that does not mean we must stop looking for alternatives :) Power up and Steem on my friend!
see for me the news is earning money... I have never have this feeling of earning good money... I am looking forward to having this new experience, you know I do not want to get bored in life :)
I watched the video. Thanks for making this post!
Unnecessary downvoting and flagging are akin to weapons of mass destruction that the peaceful world wants to do without(but without much success though).
Let's take some ideas from the real world and act before it becomes too late. The time to nip this issue in the bud is Now - or then never.
The everlasting gun of flagging/collectivism must be destroyed for good!
Steem Power is not just for gaining interest on your own SP. You're accusing people more powerful than you as a lot of things and not really looking at yourself. I asked you to look at what you were doing some time ago. It seems that was ignored because you continued to feed yourself without ever listening to the voice of those who considered what you were doing to be wrong.
Dan himself would never create this platform without the downvote. It is a necessary compliment to the upvote, so that the community can voice when something is overvalued. I do think that there could be better alternatives to the downvote, but they would still include a system for policing badly curated content. And so the issue that you're having with being downvoted now, and I really didn't want this to happen to you mindhunter because I think you're a valuable member of the community, but that issue you're having would be the same.
So I'm asking you again, to consider how this self-voting on multiple effortless posts is affecting the rest of the community. My own brother posts very like you, just casually, but he rarely if ever upvotes himself 100%. And since being delegated the SP of smooth I'm making efforts to be respectful by not voting selfishly on myself too.
I paid for that power but I also acknowledge that that power is going to become useless to me if I can't maintain the respect of the community through my use of my vote.
P.S. I'm no longer being downvoted by anyone. @transisto apologised to me in Steemit.chat the other night :)
Think again.
Hey bernie ... take a look at this vid ... it's sounding like an echo chamber in here - you sound just like that SJW loser that is @transisto! P.S. Why does all this warring occur when the Steem price goes under $1!?? It always happens! LOL! :)
I respect your progressive stance @beanz but let me pick you up on a few points.
Who are you to judge what an effortless post is?? I post many #photography pics which are single shots like every other #photography post - I suppose you will tar them all with the same brush too?? In fact from yesterday I moved back to 4 posts a day. Is that good enough for you??
High SP
As for high SP, both hard left and right views exist on Steemit so that is not for me to say how each individual uses their SP. Whining and jealousy is going to happen whatever the political persuasion.
This is mainly from collectivist progressives who are a real pain in the ass on here! I'd call myself an individualistic liberal - the best place to sit and debate all the Steemit flawed logic that occurs on Steemit on a daily basis!
If you wish to condone me and others with your progressive views to force others to account then that is your choice. If you wish to use reason and logic, then fine.
If your power is delegated, then your priorities are going to be a lot different from mine. I understand that.
I certainly don't want to debate with someone who has an axe to grind and is trying to 'manufacture' community spirit!
I do wish you all the best with your delegated SP @beanz.
I don't force others to account. I merely expressed myself as a member of the community and I care about the community more than the individual, knowing that other people are more cooperative and helpful when I am cooperative and helpful toward them. My brother has a lot more power than what I have delegated and his is not delegated to him.
When you express that the downvote is a flaw simply because you suddenly started losing money through your own voting tendencies, of course I am going to express my right to downvote posts that are benefiting the author more than his audience. And who am I to judge that? I'm an observer and this is what I see! Since when do we have the right to be free from judgement? The photography is not all you post, I have seen you pay yourself heavily for one liners and you are the highest rewarded self voted author on this platform according to the stats.
I'm not going to manufacture community spirit with you. I can see that you don't want to see past your own point of view. I wish you the best with your self-voting. I hope it does not cause you further problems but I can already see that it will.
@beanz - I'm looking for an alternative to flagging not an end to it! I want an end the abusive power from collectivist whales! This is not linked to me in any way. I've made peace with all the whales who flagged me. Many others who are flagged in anger daily are not so fortunate. Have you ever been downflagged? Do you know how humiliating it is?
Finally:
Preachy, progressive, moralistic SJW behavior will not work here @beanz - I suggest you look at the log in your own eye.
I'm glad you feel humiliated. It's only going to get worse from here. I promise.
Let me just bring back the link to the conversation between me, mindhunter and transisto on one of his posts that clarifies mindhunters abuse of the platform and disrespect to whole Steemit community.
https://steemit.com/steemabuse/@mindhunter/a-message-to-newflash-a-sock-puppet-account-of-transisto-stop-downvoting-my-posts-and-acting-like-a-sociopathic-socialist-whale#@bolekilolek/re-transisto-re-snowflake-re-transisto-re-snowflake-re-mindhunter-a-message-to-newflash-a-sock-puppet-account-of-transisto-stop-downvoting-my-posts-and-acting-like-a-sociopathic-socialist-whale-20170815t001937357z
Morning Bernie, where are all the good whales like @ned and @thejohalfiles when your need them?? Hee-hee :)
Great bro nice
Good post
damn whales downvoting could kill a man :P
Individualism Vs. Collectivism - we must find a new solution to this battle!
friend in my opinion there should be no battle here its unique social platform the main owner should maintain peace they are threatening each other
There is an ever present battle on Steemit of liberalism Vs. progressivism and whale DV'ing highlights this more than any other sore on the side of Steemit!
it shouldnt be :/
Bernie got a point though? Hasn't gone about it the right way it seems.
Under capitalism, man exploits man.
Under communism, it's just the opposite.
J.K.Galbraith
Bernie may have a point, but that point is just as impossible to solve as the method used to police it ;)
Indeed. And I have no answers.
Bought an Ether worth of Steem this morning, feels good to power up 250!
In both cases Asher we have the 'best worst solution' ... but that does not mean we must stop looking for alternatives :) Power up and Steem on my friend!
That is the plan: Power up, Steem on, and bring the positive!
Amen to that Asher :)
it seems I have meet a lot of progressivist :D I was fire 3 times :D
Welcome to their strict airport laws!!
They will burn me
They will get to you if you allow their flawed logic to do so Ale.
in that case I am save and they can kindly fuck themselves :) :)
I think the low Steem price is bringing the progressives to the fore as they get angry at not making enough money any more!!
see for me the news is earning money... I have never have this feeling of earning good money... I am looking forward to having this new experience, you know I do not want to get bored in life :)
I a new. I have never been downvoted, I have never downvoted anyone else. How ca a whales downvote hurt? Does it remove S.P.?
It removes the rewards your earn on Steemit and NOT your SP - that is always locked away safely from anyone John.
thanks