The way I want to discuss here is not really a way it is more a concept an idea, and this is not from me. I want to join the topic people like @tarazkp already spread into the Steemit Ocean. For better understanding check out his post.
When we try to bring this concept into a sentence, it could be: Adopting a plankton/minnow.
I am sure that some of you read already some posts about how community members are trying to help the community as a whole to grow.
In one thing @tarazkp said I agree confidently.
As I wrote in the previous post, I declared that growing in Vest(Steempower) should be the number one goal of everyone here.
Let me add something to this declaration: When I am saying it should be the number one goal I mean it in a rational way. Of course, this ocean has many benefits to offer, the biggest of it is in my opinion meeting new people here. Being at this point all together here and observing where this whole thing will go. That is something you cant measure rationally this goes deeper inside, and that is great.
But growing in Steempower is something rational. Fact is: More power means more influence at this point. I would not call it influence I would name it Distribution Strength. With more Vest(Steempower) you can distribute more. If you do this is another question, but the fact is rational evident.
One more benefit I also mention in the previous post: The Long-term perspective. If STEEM evolves in the right direction, if the system is improved continually, if the price of STEEM goes up your voting strength goes up. I see it mostly that way. I don't think, how much my investment has increased; more than how much my power to distribute has increased.
And now I want to mention the point I found as accurate what @tarazkap said.
If Steemit had a broader middle class here, this would improve the journey for the community as whole enormously.
But I have to say that I don't nail it on the distribution value, no, I connect it to your responsibility. Yes, you heard it right your responsibility!
You know it is always easy to complain and pointing with the finger to others. If I had this, I would do this and that not what the current whales are doing.
This thought and this attitude sneak easily into our minds or is already present. Pushing the responsibility to other people. And if someone asks you-you say: What can I do as a minnow?
Not many people have the genuine ability to put himself in someone else shoes. I am not here to judge and to condemn, but I would highly appreciate seeing more people growing in Steempower gaining stronger distribution possibilities and having with that automatically more responsibility.
As I said in the previous post I know that not everyone can act that way. I am aware of that. And I said if you need it take it.
This also matters only for those minnows and planktons who have the desire to grow and waiting that someone will support him from beginning to end. This is what this concept is about.
How could this look like?
- Having one or more depending on how much someone can handle plankton/ minnow.
- Defining a goal: I help you to reach for example 500 SP or 1000 SP the number is of course variable.
- And this till this goal is reached. It's a commitment. Not something you just do.
For that, you need of course people with more power willing to do this or a group of people. As I said, this would be a commitment.
I thought a bit about that.
If I would do this, one thing would be clear: It must be a minnow where you feel the desire and confidence. This is not done overnight. So the choice should be the right one.
I could talk more about that, but I want to hear your opinion about that.
We already have great supporting solutions, and these should also be used. This would just be an addition.
What do you think about the concept if someone with more distribution strength commits himself to a plankton/minnow/dolphin to push/support him until the defined goal is reached?
If someone with more distributing strength like whales want to help a minor to grow in this platform it will be fine and fortunate for the minor . Bit it will make the minor to be less serious in the platform since he got where he is by support of a whale, I believe in hardwork and persistence for me to appreciate what I have achieved .
I always tell people that steemit is a long term investment and not a short term gain powering up steem is the wisest thing one should do moving forward because it helps to increase and improve your influence in the steem blockchain. I am here to build my steem power in other for me to become a dolphin and maybe someday a whale everything is possible
Great comment! Yes, you are right that the danger in that kind of concept.
The minnow or plankton or even dolphin is getting lazy because he thinks that the whale will feed him. That's why I said this selection has to be very clear. Let's take you for an example. I think you would not abuse that kind of support. I think you would appreciate it and nevertheless work hard. Maybe you would work even harder :)
Exactly! @obest.
Everything is possible.
And I totally agree with your view but permission to tweak it a little with practical life experience please...
I am a coach and a Toastmaster (a public speaking and leadership practicing platform).
And when someone is assigned to mentor you or coach you, there's a common understanding between both parties that the coach is eligible to ask his student to redo his project again (with justifiable reasons).
I once repeated a particular project 3 times. ☺
So if a whale and a minor can have a common understanding and an honest agreement to help the minor grow when there's an obvious seriousness and to also sanction the minor by down-voting him when he becomes less serious, and with a promise from the minor to grow another person after he's strong.
I think it'd be beautiful.
Just my thoughts though..
👏🏽 👏🏽 This will work if it were to be implemented
@modernpastor I do was looking forward to this post :)
O man, my post of today could be such a good addition to yours. It describes that people should not look at the value of their post in $ but in vest. I am always telling people that if you are here for the long term, it doesn't matter what the value of a post is. You can read it on my blog. I am not the person that just places links without permission in a comment!
To continue on the content of the post. Yes we do need a bigger middle class. the problem is what can we define a middle class. According to me the middle class at the moment is between 250 and 500 SP. Above 500 SP, you are just a poor higher class :)
We also need to make sure that when you followers grow, it will be easier for you to grow. Because their upvotes will have more value, euhm let me rephrase that into their upvotes will consist of more vests!
That's why last week I adopted a plankton and promised him that I would support them up to 50SP. I know that this is not enough but I, myself, am also only a red fish or plankton, depending on the term! So, I will do my utmost best to guide him with advice and pushes in the back. That's the only thing I can do. I am linking him up with other persons with whom he does share interests. And as a starter I am going to donate all SBDs which are generated with the post, I did announce this. You can find this also on my blog under the title: "Proof of the power of communities and interaction".
So, yes it would be a great initiative.
And if you are looking for a red fish/plankton to support, you may always think about me :).
When you take a look at my blog and the interaction I am having, you will understand that it wouldn't be a bad choice :).
Cheers,
Peter
Puuuuuuh what a great comment. This community needs more people like you.
Please share your link here I think its a blessing for others to see it.
And with your examples, you are already in action which is great. I am sure that one day this will come back to you.
Thanks for the kind words.
Here is the link, feel free to resteem or share with your followers if you like it.
https://steemit.com/busy/@fullcoverbetting/why-you-should-keep-on-blogging-although-the-value-of-steem-is-low-er-reward-pool-explained
Cheers,
Peter
Well yes the community is growing everyday and as it is seen I have seen few users have done that and those were adopted they are really doing well and thanks to those whales/dolphins.Few are doing their part not just talking about the change.I really respect that and to be honest I do respect the idea of yours as well.As it would definitely make a life of someone and that person should be worth it.
While yes getting the SP is the most valuable asset that can one gain now as it will be one of the best investment as far as everyone is seeing.Well no one has seen the future but as it seems it is good investment for now.
Well yes it is a beginning it might take time but after seeing one another will be inspired and that will be true act of community !
Awesome comment. You mentioned crucial points, my friend. Indeed I have a lot of respect for people already doing this. Both sides! And yes, STEEM has the potential to be one of the best investments. As you said no one knows the future but lets hope and see :)
The idea of adopting a little fish seems very noble to me. Although I do not know if there are people who do that. It would be a nice project. and we as a small fish should strive so that the adopter feels proud. As you say at the beginning ... there are people who like to blame others ... but the question is ... what do I do to grow? ... not wait for the whales to make me grow or blame the whales because I no cresca ... If someone helps is good, but if that does not happen do not get angry.
Exactly as you said. I have nothing more to add :)
It is good to do these things if the people chosen are committed to growing and will work hard. You might want to see what @hanen's experience was getting some support from @overkillcoin (if i remember correctly) to grow.
There are a many ways to build accounts and still be a healthy member of the community. It takes a little more work but the network built will be very valuable in the future. Those who just build their stake might find themselves in the cold in the future.
Thanks for the mention :)
Thanks for your comment here :)
Thanks for delivering such content and being active to build this community for the long-term. This is what Steemit and other and coming applications build on STEEM need.
This is a great concept that will aoso build community amongst people of different class.
I've been following these posts on building Steempower and i have been deliberate about my steempower. I changed my payout back to 50-50% after the advice you gave from the last post comment section.
This would be good concept because even the benefactor doesn't lose to help out...steem is just that great.
I hope people like @ned can see such concept and help out.
Thanks @modernpastor
I am glad to hear that you followed my recommendation :)
I think this is a good way.
Yes, @ned with his account could do a lot but he is involved in other matters.
That's fine.
Getting someone to be interested in building you is quite rare and would be a good miracle. However if i continur to create value and build vital networks, i hope to get such opportunity soon.
Well done @modernpastor
For sure you will my friend for sure.
Work as good as you can and have faith. :)
That is really a good ideas, it is individuals responsibility when will are taking about steemit, I believe we all know what is right to do we often just blame others or situation around is inoder to get out this mess we find ourselves . What you said about being of support to minnows that are willing and able to work towards to evolvement of steemit is a good and perfect idea. I will add this, if the person supported has a focus and clear goal.
I appreciate your comment and your view on that :)
It seems a good idea. It's not for everyone, but a lot of the big accounts, and most of the users in Steemit only think of themselves and the newcomers like us are not seen.
Obviously there are communities and many people who value good content, but at least in the "Spanish" section that is so popular, I see many new ones that are promising but there is rarely an article that is voted or commented on at least. It is one thing to raise it and quite another to apply it. That's why the bots to vote, and give resteem every time are becoming more requested.
The new users are the most important ones because they become new ambassadors and voices for this community. That's why we can't forget them. If the Community grows as a whole it will be the best for everyone.
I love this point and it's something I overlook. We always think of growing our accounts so that it's worth more and we have more influence...But this a much bigger than that.
Like you said, we develop a responsibility to distribute this and the more we have (the more STEEM Power) the more we can not only help others but the entire blockchain.
I love this angle man. Appreciate you highlighting it.
Could not agree more with. Provide value first, don't chase money, in this case, don't chase steem, and everything will fall in place :D
Thanks my freind :) Glad that you like it.
Yes, I have the feeling some people overlook this aspect.
Yes, your money increase in value. But this is important when you plan to take out your investment. If you plan to be further a part in this community you have more power to distribute and this comes with more responsibility.
as a minnow/plankton myself, have enjoyed reading your post about this whole thing of growing our accounts in this steemit sea. I also think all We need is helping eachother is the best strategy to use here so we can all prosper.
I'm so Happy to resteem this post and hope it will get more visibility.
Thanks for resteeming this post. I appreciate that.
I think that this concept looks promising :)
Very interesting read! There are a lot of whales who have adopted minnows by starting up communities and distributing strength.
This is a great initiative!
Thanks for your comment :) I appreciate that you find this valuable :)
Sp is life. Your suggestion is really good.I think it will do good for us.
Great Post again...
this sounds like a Win win situation... nobody can loose ...
Ich versuche schon lange den Sprung zu schaffen aber es ist gerade in dieser Phase in der ich stehe wie vor einer Wand... Smile vllt muss ich die Augen auch nochmals in eine andere Richtung schwenken um diesen Schritt zu vollziehen.
Magst du mir von deiner Phase erzählen :)
Du hattest einen Unfall 😱?
Magst du mir von deiner Phase erzählen :)
Du hattest einen Unfall 😱?
Unfall naja Unwetter eher... Es hat so stark geregnet so das unsere Wohnung mit Kackwasser vollgelaufen ist und es von der Fuerwehr leergepumpt werden musste, und morgen dann endlich mal jemand vorbeikommt um sich die Schäden anzuschauen ist ja dann nur 3 Tage schon vergangen...
Die Phase...
Hui ich bin in der Phase wo ich kaum vorran komme , diese Phase wo man überlegt hey Schreibe ich das alles für mister unbekannt der Dir kein Feedback gibt, ist es wirklich gut was Du Schreibst... Aber das bisherige Feedback zeigte das es nicht so schlecht ist :D aber eben eine Niesche :D Dazu Streame ich ab und an um ein wenig spass neben dem Trockenen Blog Stuff zu haben :D
Nicht so das ich aufhören würde oder könnte ^^ Aber es ist eben vieles Passiert in Steemit, die Masse verkauft lieber sein Vote anstatt es selbst da zu nutzen wo einem der Content gefällt.. Du kaufst deine Votes weil alle anderen ihre Votes Verkauft haben und kaum noch ein Freien platz haben um nicht Ihr Vote verschenkt zu haben ohne eine Direkte Rückzahlung erhalten zu haben...
Bots sind in der Überzahl es werden so viele Posts an Resteembots Verkauft um dann dort Ungesehen zu bleiben hauptache man hat sich ein Vote dazu gekauft...
Ich denke das die Masse den falschen Weg eingeschlagen hat ;) Ich gehörte ebenfalls dazu und will das eigentlich nicht mehr aber ich weiss das ich nicht SP gainen kann wenn ich nicht eben dieses Querfinanzieren betreibe und ebenfalls die Votes kaufe... und zack bist in der Schleife ;)
Ok, dachte schon dir wäre was zugestoßen. Gut das dem nicht so ist.
Verstehe dich vollkommen und gebe dir in allen Punkten recht.
Ich sage es mal so; aus geschäftlicher SIcht, kann ich das natürlich gut verstehen, wenn man genügen Power hat und diese dann verkauft. Ich habe das auch schon gemacht und kann sagen, dass man sich damit wirklich was aufbauen kann.
Aus Communitysicht hingegen ist es eher kontraproduktiv, oder lass mich sagen es ist kontraproduktiv, wenn man es extrem macht. Ich denke, wenn man wenisgtens eine gesunde Balance finden könnte, wäre das auchs chon mal. Genug Power zu haben um guten Content zu voten. Letzlich ist der Zuwachs und das Gefühl der neuen, wie kleinenrn Nutzer etwas erreichen zu können enorm wichtig für die Zukunft dieser Plattform. Ein Punkt, den man nicht vergessen darf.
Genau Steemit war etwas besonderes weil es eine Community EBENE hatte, diese wurde durch MIllionen Bots nun zerstört...
Schau doch mal die ganzen RESTEEMBOTS ...
Die Senden dir 0.01 SBD oder Steem... wenn man sich deren Accounts mal Anschaut ist das bei ca. ( ich habe mal bei zwei verschiedenen 3 Tage durchgezählt es schwankt zwischen 750 und 850 am Tag ) sagen wir also 8000 nur um es Mathematisch einfach zu halten das ist ein Versenden on 8 SBD Täglich , dafür das meisst unnützer Content unnötig oft verteilt wird, weil bei der Flut von zig Retweeter am Tag hat sich ein wichter MOMENT verschoben!! Nämlich als ich Anfing zu STEEMEN... hattest ca 1 Min auf der Toppage der neuen Artikel... das gibt es in der art nicht und ausserdem bist du da noch genau eine ZEHNTELSEKUNDE, da diese dauerbots dich da verdrängen.desweiteren ist jedes Nutzen eines sochen RESTEEM-BOTS für dich ein Finanzieller schaden, denn... der Durchschnitt zeigt das du 0,5 sbd Zahlen sollst um deren Service zu nutzen, also zum einen müssen sie ja immer wieder 0,01 Verschicken um die Werbetrommel am laufen zu halten... Aber zurück zur Mathematik...
Du zahlst also Durchschnittlich 0,5 SBD und hast was erreicht, ja genau Du bist in der Flut von hunderttausend sinnlosen Posts gelandet die sich keiner Anschaut weil es als SPAM durchs Auge rutscht, und lassen wir es mal wirklich 100 Lesen, Wie wir aus meinem vorherigen Artikel auslesen konnten hat ja keiner mehr VOTE Power da sie verkauft wurde also bekommst du vllt 2,3,4,5 Votes die vllt noch 0.01 oder 0.02 wert sind... geht diese Rechnung auf???
NEIN!!
Die Upvote Bots es gibt zwei drei wenige wo man echt einen minimalen Gewinn erzielen konnte aber auf Grund des momentanen Kurses von SBD und Steem ist dies in der Art derzeit nicht mal mehr dort...
Was müssen wir also tun...
Ich sehe derzeit die wirkliche Zukunft darin Neue Eigencommunities zu Erschaffen die man mit dem Autosteem system füttert, also weg vom Verkaufen hin zum Verteilen an Menschen innerhalb der Community in der ich selbst Aktiv bin. Wie funktioniert das also...
Also Ich rede von einem Trail, einem Vote system derer denen ich als Content Ersteller traue... menschen die mein Vote Automatisch erhalten, weil sie es Verdienen weil das was diese machen in meinen Augen gut ist...
Ich hoffe ich hae nun nicht zu viel geschrieben, und ich hoffe es ist OKAY für Dich wenn ich meinen hier gesamt geschriebenen Text selbst nochmals Posten werde ;) smile... Wenn Du magst darfst Du dort auch gerne mitaktiv werden ;)
Zugestossen ist mir schon was, nämlich der Zustand das ich einem unwetter Schaden habe den meine Versicherung nicht trrägt und ich einen grossteil meienr Möbel damit verloren habe, die Teppiuche und sonsttige teile der kinderzimmer, vom Schaden den die Wohnung selbst getragen hat mal zu schweigen, obwohl warum, Laminat der raus muss weil vollgesaugt, wände die getrocknet werden müssen Fliessen die wohl ausgeschlagen werden müssen weil die Fugen mit dem Scheisswasser vollgesaugt sind und demnach zum einen eh brüchig nun sind zweitens sonst immer weiter stinken werden... Vom Seelischen Schaden den meine Frau und die Kinder in der Situation davon getragen haben... Ich bin da vllt zu einfach gestrickt für mich das ich selbst in der Situation mir denke auch das schaukelt man iwann wieder, aber wenn ich ehrlich bin steht mir im wahrsten sinne des Wortes das wasser bis zum Hals....
This is a great concept that will aoso build community amongst people of different class.
I've been following these posts on building Steempower and i have been deliberate about my steempower. I changed my payout back to 50-50% after the advice you gave from the last post comment section.
This would be good concept because even the benefactor doesn't lose to help out...steem is just that great.
I hope people like @ned can see such concept and help out.
Thanks @modernpastor
It's a good idea for someone with more distribution strength to commit to a minnow/plankton to support him, however the minnow/plankton should should be responsible by showing some level of commitment may be to build himself and build others.
Concerning what you said in your last post,that the goal of every Steemian should be to invest in steem power, I made a comment and I asked you a question in that comment. I would really love you to answer, because your answer will help me a lot. Thank you!
Did you see my answer :)
Yes,I did. I replied. Thanks dear!
First of all, I'll like to say thank you for even having this thought come to your mind. Seriously, some hardworking minnows like me, firstly have continued because of that one person who decided to help us. I know many who stopped by the way, and you cannot blame them because no matter how passionate you are here, with time, you'll feel like "what am I really doing here, "if you don't get encouraging upvotes. Many have fallen I tell you. If our bigger brothers can help, it would be beautiful. Nobody achieved greatness without some form of help. If you check closely you will find that they were helped, even if no-one helped, nature will. RESTEEMED
Wise words my friend :)
I really appreciate your comment and wish that people like you with that heart and mind will have great success here. Keep working and have faith^^
You have recieved a free upvote from minnowpond, Send 0.1 -> 2 SBD with your post url as the memo to recieve an upvote from up to 100 accounts!
In my opinion, playing the role of victim does not get us anywhere, everybody starts as a minnow, obviously people with money can immediately fill up their accounts, but their money was built through work. My point is, if we are minnows on STEEM, it can be a great start to become a whale later in our lives (at anything in life).
Btw if you are looking for someone to adopt, I´m here to embrace the adventure and reach a certain goal... ;)
Adopting a Minnow is probably something we should try to share and support, to reach some whales with good will.
:D Great comment. Indeed playing the victim will bring us nowhere. And the feeling one day looking back to the beginnings can be an extraordinary feeling.
I keep this in mind. ;)
Hahaha! Thanks!
We really need to focus ourselves on our lives and how we can improve as a person, not on how we can "destroy" the powerful/whales.
The idea is awesome @modernpastor. ♥ And this will definitely help the community grow as well. Help someone who is committed and deserving. Someone who will also help other minnows grow on the platform. Pay it forward and share your blessings to other minnows.
Glad that you like that concept :)
I think we need more ways to grow as a whole.
Thank you again @modernpastor.
The first time I read your post was when you wrote about the most important thing to look out for here.
I also dropped a comment and immediately started following you. (That was some days ago)
I'm barley 1week old here and reading your post makes me feel like I've been here for months because of the wisdom and knowledge that your bring to the table.
I think the concept is really cool.
John Maxwell would always say "leaders grow leaders".
In other words, if a whale build dolphins around him, he's adding more value to himself and the dolphins can in-turn help to build/train others.
However, if there's fear of laziness from the minor, then there should also be a sanction to keep him busy and committed.
I would be honored to grow under your guidance and wisdom.
So think of me as one you could help and I'd be grateful and more committed.
Also, permit me to mention that I and my team are committed to combat avoidable blindness in Nigeria and empowering the already blind people.
It was in the cause of this project (for the blind people) that I met a friend who introduced me to steemit.
Confirm for yourself on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook (ProjectSaveDBlind).
We're waiting for the account to be approved here.
Your help will be appreciated @modernpastor.
From my experience both when it comes down to giving and getting support, it's not about the size of the support / upvotes but about the consistency.Getting small but consistent support on posts to many of the small-mid sized accounts is worth far more than having to hope for the occiasional whale upvote (even if the total whale upvote is worth more).
I've started 5 months ago with a monthly curation project giving small auto-upvotes to promesing accounts that bring sports betting related content with the idea to slowly grow that community here on steemit. The response has been great and the results exceeded my wildest dreams.
More people actually started giving people on the list support which insipred them to give back and help the community grow. A discord channel was created which helped us group up. Quickly after, we had an upvote bot which now has 1.6k SP and gives free upvotes to anyone who genuinely posts sports betting content. The entire system works and anyone with good clearly good intentions now get support by our community all originated from a couple smaller consistent daily upvotes.
Example of a genuine account before and after joining our community.
So the way I see it, supporting one or two accounts with bigger support helping them grow is far less efficient compared to giving multiple members who clearly have good intentions on steemit smaller consistent support with auto-upvotes (It's more something of a numbers game)
(Steemauto allows auto curation while chosing voting weight and the maximum amount of daily votes which is a really great tool for this)
Ein wirklich tolles Projekt, was du da erwähnst. Auch danke für deinen Tipp. Ich als kleiner Fisch lese solche Comments natürlich mit großem Interesse.