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RE: Who is Ozchartart, really? The real story behing the ozchartart controversy. (Sock Opera part 1)

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It nevertheless doesn't change the fact that your suggestion of the notion of @ozchartart being a random poster who got lucky is a straw man. I don't believe anyone has suggested it.

I actually said "got lucky or was skillful"

to me this quote:

I am just a user, not an early miner, nor a witness, my involvement in Steemit came with posting. I have since spend hours not only promoting Steemit on the web and in real life, but also teaching people how to use it, explaining how to transfer cryptos, not only STEEM but also bitcoin and how to use crypto in general, from Steemit, exchanges, wallets, etc. For what reason? Because I like Steemit, and want it to grow.

and this one in reply to dan's sock-puppet paragraph

So by this, does that mean that I am getting punished because someone who you don't like is upvoting my posts?
If that is so please sort that out with him and leave me out of your war.
And again, as you say "In my opinion he has proven himself to be a bad whale", your opinion, and again you try to enforce it upon others?

seem to imply (though not explicitly state) that he is just a "regular user"... also many of the @engagement comments in the earler flagged thread

also Knozaki's comment here: https://steemit.com/steemit/@dantheman/why-i-flag-ozchartart#@knozaki2015/re-dantheman-why-i-flag-ozchartart-20170117t034601782z

It it good that you address this issue but I think eventually every blogger will have his ups and downs. ozzie has a run, might have secured some whales supporting him, but that support might end anyday. so I think we could just see how it works out.

So yeah, thats the way i see the presented narrative. There are some like the quote you mentioned, that acknowledge the whole friendship angle, but for the most part i think

In part, and as I said my voting generally reflects it, but also the small to nonexistent target market for the content itself as I said at the time. I've explicitly contrasted that with @ozchartart in fact. Whatever I think of or about @ozchartart's content (generally little in either case), I recognize that trading and charting is something that is proven to potentially attract an audience and a community of significant size. I don't know if @ozchartart is the one to do that, but his topic is at least viable.

This is a whole different topic (though i see where youre coming from).

Without getting too for off on a tangent -- yes things like porn, charting, sports are far far larger markets. But they are also far far far more satruated. Small markets are easier to penetrate, and their users will be potentially far more engaged.

On facebook, im in 3 different Akita groups. I think the total membership on all 3 is over 70K... the biggest has 33K members and more activity than steemit.

For a group dedicated to owners of a fairly rare dog breed.

Now yes, im sure that there are groups about sports or groups about boobies that are much bigger, but theyve also been around for much longer. When the 17 year old kid that started the akita world group did so, if he had started a boobie group, he would have had a much wider potential market, but a much smaller actual group because that potential market would be far more saturated.

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On facebook, im in 3 different Akita groups. I think the total membership on all 3 is over 70K... the biggest has 33K members and more activity than steemit.

That exists because Facebook has a billion or so members. It didn't get that way by starting as an Akita site, nor did it have Akita groups when it had a few thousand members (or possibly not even at a few million).

Small markets are easier to penetrate, and their users will be potentially far more engaged.

I can't really agree because of the difficulty of establishing any the minimum critical mass for any discussion or community to have meaningful utility. Try to start an Akita community on Steemit and see how far it goes (it won't). Even if you get a relatively large share of the Akita discussion universe, it won't be enough people here to thrive. It may (and certainly would be) difficult to get a large portion of the porn market, but it will be far easier to get enough people on here to even have discussion and interaction occur (in fact there is already enough people).

It is possible once the subcommunities features are better developed, some small subcommunities may organically grow up here (though I still have doubts due to the pressures of the reward algorithm), the way they do in subreddits, but for now I see no way that can work outside of subject matter with at least relatively wide accessibility and demand.