Should we all go out and leave this place to bots they can poke each other, I just don't like bots.
Wasn't the main idea to reward good content? So only rich ones produce good content huh?
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Should we all go out and leave this place to bots they can poke each other, I just don't like bots.
Wasn't the main idea to reward good content? So only rich ones produce good content huh?
It's like always in life, if you have more money you can make more advertisements.
And nothing else are bots. With the current price fluctuations it's already gambling and often times not profitable.
BUT it can make your content more visible (trending).
It can also have various other effects on human psychology.
Voting something up because many "people" voted them up, so it has to be good?
Voting someone up who you know, that he will use bots after a while, so you can get the curation rewards?
I agree with you partially on the as I say "money calls money".
But let's dig deeper; look this user's post; https://steemit.com/vincentb/@johanalejo/btc-pairs-and-the-altcoins-market. If you see his spending pattern, he posts, then bid on 31 different bots. In that post he spent SBD 136.5. It means that to be a profit he should receive same amount in SBD if not more, plus the SP part. So far as what I see according to SteamSupply tool, he will get 102.70 SBD + 27.115 SP. As you see there is 25% direct loss from doing this. Even considering a 1 to 1 with the SP, a 5% was gone for the Whales.
I like his posts, though, I am not sure if this is the best way to promote. Still, he has 141 upvotes, which altogether do not sum up to what he invested.
He has 326 followers since November 2017, from that amount of paid bots and investment I would expect more (the same modus operandi repeats in each post), even considering is not a copy paste cat and most posts have substance.
Investment ROI, according to this wallet he invested, SBD 1041 which comes from Bittrex, on the pipeline he has 640 SBD + 151.58 SP = 791.58 (assuming a one to one). Ergo, from 1041 invested he is down to 791.58 (+86.45 current acc. SP) > 878.03 this means an ROI of = -16%
I hope this analysis which took me some research time :P will help you to make your mind on the subject.
I love maths (though I suck at them) because they are objective, so best recommendation; do your numbers and find the best approach which works for you.
@TheRealwolf, what would be the ROI if done through Smartsteem? Even considering you would not, yet, be able to pay for so much SBD votes?
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I'm not pretty familiar with curation rewards, since I'm not rich on steem. Rich ones can get trending, hot or else as advertisement platforms, I'm not lookin on main page at all. But some dev should give me a place where I can see my friends' comments and likes, where I can jump into those conversations, find mutual interests people etc..
I actually pretty into human psychology and see that steem is not feels like at home. Reason above, we used to use social media like that and this place is not a social media platform yet for obvious reasons.
*edit: Also I'm not digging for $$ I'm looking for really worthy content to read or see w/e. I'm here only for utopian, if utopian weren't exist in this blockchain. I couldn't hold onto this, probably be a tail to an orca an beg for upvotes everywhere.
The feed is for the things you mentioned, with the difference that it would be way too much to show every single action of your friends so posts and resteems only. And you will often hear/see that too many resteems aren't good, as it floods the feed of your followers...
What other social media plattforms do is that they analyze the behaviour of you and your friends and filter the content to what they think you would enjoy most...
It's nothing I want to have on steemit to be honest with you, I want to explore myself and not what some machine thinks is good for me :)
Utopian is really great! :)
It's not up to machine what I was suggesting. I can easily unfollow a guy who floods my feed and he can take his lesson from there.
You can explorer yourself in a notebook too, if you are doing it here that feels like it's not just that, there are better alternative social media blockchains like zeronet better ui, full anonymity yet no payment.
And actually bad part is, I can't even fool around with the people I like. I wan't to post some silly comments under memes for example but it would look like begging for upvotes again. So either I come up with a brilliant comment or not talk at all to the people who I actually communicate with.
And that's the outcome of wealth distribution, which bots making this worse, imo.
I'm not against anything, everyone should chase the money for sure but while doing that people gotta be honest.
If I understood you correctly you want to see every action of every one you follow so you can engage in mutual interests.
But you will unfollow them if they are active and have fun with silly comments, which floods your feed?
I see no viable solution here. Either you want to see everything, or you want to have a filtered version of everything or you go with the current solution to only see the stuff the autor explicitly choose to share.
I'm not unhappy with the current solution, but of course everyone is free to have another opinion :)
And as the blockchain is freely available it is a possibility that someday a more facebook like frontend enters the game, with the features you would like it to have :)
As for me I'm not looking at the comments of a person, so he can be silly all he likes, without me judging it^^ And I'm not sure how many do look at the comments and judges the person according to that.
And if I see a post and there are people laughing and having a good time under it I also don't see it as a problem, but just normal behaviour in a social network :)
So I don't really share your opinion about this plattform.
Yeah let's agree to disagree :)
I'm using some kind of queries to track those activities, as you said resteem is one way of what I've been talking. What I want is for example my followers should see these comments in a way so they can hop up if they want or just unfollow me just being annoying around :)
You can set your upvote to be given only to certain pre-defined users in #Smartsteem.
Hi Oups thanks for your message. I agree personally I do not wish that. For bid bots I agree you only can afford them if you’ve invested previously or you are doing really good with the blogging part.
For the part related to Smartsteem I would say, not necessarily, as you see you can “lend” your upvote. For the buy upvotes part, you only can pay a small amount, not more than 0.3 SBD. I don’t see this fits you your mentioned scenario.
If we are worried we should make our vote to have power when voting for Witnesses, @yapbamatt is full in with the bid bots, while @therealwolf has a more sustainable solution while attending those looking for a market.
I see you are active in Utopian, personally I love that community. I wish I could program more than a few lines to provide anything useful over there. I see the real added value in that kind of projects and not in a gambling low quality bidding game. @aggreoed is someone also we should listen more, he is also concerned with the rewards pool reaping.
Thanks for detailed information, as I said before I'm not against it. Bots can be used as an advertisement asset, people who wants to grow their account faster and make money from it can use it bots as an investment but in the meantime some of those devs needs to help other part of the community who wants to stick around, enjoy good content, communicate idk this kind of stuff. Yet I didn't see any particular attempt for it. Maybe I'm just missing, maybe it's still in progress somewhere.
I agree that not many devs are looking beyond their own pocket, and for that matter, bots are the biggest profitable thing. You sell your vote for a 90% of its price, if not more, and then re-invest the revenues into making your value even larger. Long time we are just feeding the Whales into been futures Leviathan no one will be able to tame. At the same time the ROI for investors bidding is null or even negative.
Check my other post on that; https://steemit.com/steemit/@santana33/steem-robots-stop-losing-money-and-how-to-be-a-pro