Steemit Retention Problem - Analysis of Steemit Database

in #steemit8 years ago

After a recent analysis of new users from the Steemit database, there were signs to suggest retention on Steemit was rather low. 

You can read that posts here: https://steemit.com/steemit/@paulag/analyzing-steemit-data-using-power-bi

So I decided to carry out a quick analysis to see how many users were active so far this month (July 17) with posts. 

Analyzing the Steemit Database to establish an average retention rate for posting on Steemit

To do this I looked at only 1 table of data in the database, the Accounts table.  This table will give us the date that the account was set up and also the last posting date.

I found that so far in July 35,656 accounts have made at least 1 post this month.  I used Power BI to work with the data and preformed a simple count on the number of rows in the table that had a post date of 1 July 17 to date.  This is only 14% of the total registered accounts.

That led me to another question, the people that did post, when did they register?

Would you believe only 4% of the total number of accounts registered in 2016 have been active with posts this month.  That’s pretty poor retention

A whopping 40% of users that registered this month have made a post.

But if we remove the first 2 month and the last two months from the calculations we can get a more accurate reflection of retention.  14% of total accounts posting this month includes June and July which have high % of new user’s posts, hence inflating the overall posting retention.

So excluding the first two and last two month, the average retention for posting is 6%.  

I did have some interactive reports with this data, however I can not embed them in Steemit, so here are some of the graphs I produced

Now that we can estimate the % posting retention, what about the users that have not posted this month?

 The 86% of registered users.  

Well these accounts are not all inactive.  Some people don’t post, just vote (Some of which would be voting bots).  I think my next analysis will be on the accounts that have not posted, see if I can get a better understand.  Obviously I will share the results with you!

Why is retention so low?

I am a minnow, so my experience on Steemit is limited.  But in the short time that I have been here, I have witnesses some stuff that would surely contribute to the low retention.

The first thing is how people are being directed to Steemit.  There are many videos on Facebook and Youtube that sell Steemit as basically a get rich scheme.  People are coming on looking for a quick few bucks.  But to their disappointment, their first few posts don’t earn them much and they leave.

Next there is the learning curve.  If you don’t come from the Cyrpto world there is a lot to get your head around.  The money flow, Steem, SBD, Steempower, powering up, powering down can all be overwhelming for some.  And then there is wallets and exchanges too.

And the last thing I will mention is whales and clicks. It can appear to minnows that whales vote for whales, if you are not in the click then you don’t have much of a chance.

 Big thanks to @arcange for making this possible with SteemSQL! 


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It is hard to want to make a good quality post that takes hours, when you see some hot chick post a hello, and make a decent amount on her story. I'm curious what kinds of demographics are Steemians, and what floats everyone's boats.

I have been looking at the 'about' section on new profiles. Only 18% of new users in July have completed their 'About' section. I hope to do some text analysis on this later

Good analysis and very true. I recently created a flyer that was focussing on the "get paid" selling point. Other people have raised the issues you have in this post and I am recreating it with the "decentralised social media" selling point in mind.
I think this in the long run will help bring in higher quality users.

Thank you for your comment and feedback. I think I say your flyer, maybe you could post it here in this thread to help other minnows that are reading this post

Sure :) I'll get it altered with the new selling point and post it here.

Honestly I think that there are a lot of quality users but lots of them stay undervalued, just because... If I take a look at the trending section I hardly see quality, I see whale voting circles and sometimes crypto stuff.. The gems are not in the trending section, and that's a flaw in the system imo.. But we are in beta so I'm accepting this. I can't program a solution for it, so I'm accepting it..

Nice post..maybe others create an account without knowing what to do about their log-in pass..and got lost their pass..

I would say more likely a huge number of accounts from 2016 are accounts that were created to exploit the fact that Steemit Inc. was giving out free Steem.

I was not aware of this. Pity they wont give me free steem now lol

I think that's a very possible scenario as well; I created an account for a friend via anonsteem and he had things really confused and almost lost access to his account ; but thanks to the password recovery thing he was able to restore the access ; still trying to help him figure out some things but new users can get all confused; yes

Big time confused. I would say I am good with tech, and as an accountant, I am good with numbers and stuff, add this to working online for 7 years and I am still confused (but getting there)

you sound like you are learning your way around here just fine @paulag ! I didn't think you were a minnow from reading this until you mentioned it. Nice post, many of the same thoughts I've been pondering too.

This is true too.

Great work @paulag!

I believe that a good percentage of these accounts were created automatically by some software, but it'd be very hard to detect those accounts.

I also believe that many people register accounts and forget all about them; or at the very least lose interest in Steemit; as some people had to wait for days if not weeks to get approved; I think that's a major problem that puts off a lot of new members; but we should wait and see how this issue will be addressed in the next HF.

A starting point in detecting these accounts would be voting, and delegated steem but no posts.

6% is low for a social media platform. I think you are right that those people who believed that steemit is get rich scheme left after getting frustrated with the result of their first few posts.

Im hoping that the people who are still here will continue to contribute. :)

there was a big spike in intake in June. A lot of this can be attributed to 1 person that joined in may, and although he is getting the name out there the quality of the user that he brings is not what steemit really wants ( people that think they can get rich quick).
6% is very low, but remember, this is still in beta and also the points raised by @moataz above are very true

Thanks for sharing. Very interesting. I'll have to look into the data sometime myself, as that's the type of thing I do for a living.

I love data

There are also some accounts that are obtained for future value. Such as microsoft, intel, coca cola etc.

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It is great you are getting the info to keep us informed.. good post

thank you

Very interesting, I think this could also be due to human nature, many want to see results fast, and when this does not happen lose heart and move on to the next promised gold rush. SEO was what drew me to Steemit originally and the opportunity of learning about crypto currency, the community and the huge learning curve is what keeps me here now. Thank you for the post.

I enjoy to learn myself, but not everyone wants that. Thank you for your feedback

Good break down. The other problem I see, which has been discouraging for me after getting on, is that your post is only worth anything during it's first 7 days (more like first three days though, because it gets buried pretty quick with everyone frantically posting every day in order to "earn" steady. ) A lot of content on other social media can go viral after a year of the person posting. Here, there is no option to resteem any good content that is over seven days old! This is a major flaw , in my eyes, in regard to the over all success of this platform .........

I agree @davyoneness. Limiting payout to 7 days may not always encourage the best content. It leans more towards ephemeral, clickbait type post. Grab them quick to get the hit.

I think just before I joined the payout period was 30 days - a bit better in my mind.

Very interesting post @paulag. I had been wondering about account retention.

I started about 6 weeks ago a list of all the homesteaders and preppers on steemit. Been updating it regularly and now have c 130 on the list. I have followed all of them to network but have noticed that the number actively posting has been in decline recently.

I also love Excel but a total amateur at it - so very interested to know that it could be used for steemit analyses like this. Thank you.

Congrats on the analysis Paula! It's so refreshing to see an Excel expert here. Would be curious to find out your next analysis.

comments like this rock my world......

Very good info. Resteeming. Yep you're right the retention is low bc people are making cents on their first posts and then giving up. Many people on this platform are EXTREMELY unrealistic regarding what they are going to get out of this. And that itself is another problwm, only being concerned about what you personally will gain. This is a community treat it that way. I have a FB group, Steemit Dreamit, where our emphasis is on quality content, no upvote for upvote, follow for follow, and the building of organic followings. Organic followings occur when you are making an impact on the community. You won't get anywhere on steemit if you are only in this for yourself. Resteemed

Community is key, I have mentioned this in a number of posts. its true for any online platform

That's some good data collection and presentation.
That many accounts go idle and that we have many new voting bots these days doesn't surprise me, but that it was that hugh even from the accounts of last year, that's a chocker I think.
I really thought that the early adopters from last year was more active.

thank you for the feedback. I too was surprised that the accounts from last year are not more active

Also, they are a bit miss leading by saying right off that "Steemit is a social media platform where everyone gets paid for creating and curating content."
Um,everyone? no, just look at how many posts don't get paid, I bet more than being paid perhaps now with all the new users not worth anything . That could be an interesting analytic ! I have also seen weird things, like I go a upvote a post that is at 87 cents, my vote registered, but persons post is now at 86 cents instead of adding my penny! I was at 100% vote power too at the time. I almost wonder if their is some kind of hacked going on?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salami_slicing