So I am still learning the ropes of #steemit but I have a question about the upvotes situation. If its free to upvote, why I keep seeing people hesitant to do so? And that little dollar counter next to it, sometimes it goes up, and sometimes it goes down after I upvote but I'm not sure what it does.
Also, as for the upvotes, is upvoting your own coments in bad taste in this community?
I'm not too focused on the monetary part and I'm more interested in the unique content posted here, but it concerns me a little that it starting to feel like a battlefield and good content only gets "trending" if it paid to be promoted. Organic posts don't make it to the front. Am I missing something?
I've asked myself the same questions and I've gotten many different responses. Upvoting is free indeed, but your amount of voting power is limited. Some people just upvote their own posts or delegate the majority of their voting power to someone/something else. That might explain why some authors don't upvote any comments on their posts.
You can check how much voting power you have on steemnow.com/@yourusername
Upvoting your own comments is frowned upon by some, but not everyone. I typically don't do it unless I feel my comment needs to be seen.
Good that you're not too focused on the monetary part, you should focus on writing about stuff you like first. You can definitely also make money without your posts hitting the 'Trending' section.
I am so happy to see someone calmy explain this to these entitled noobs! Thank you for letting them know that it is NOT exactly "free", at least not MONEY upvotes.
Sorry it is not free to give VALUE upvotes, upvotes that actually pay out money
you MUST have steempower to give money upvotes. PERIOD. So why should something so valuable be given out like a cheap Obamaphone to every homeless person with an EBT card?
These upvotes arent't free, maybe yours are, but mine cost me a lot of time and money to earn and buy. I don't give out BIGones to just anyone
But go LOOK at y Blog. I make SURE that EVERY last commenter on my Blogs gets at LEAST 1 cent in upvotes from me or my friend @tytran UNLESS they post spam or shit, then they get a warning and then instead of flags I let steemclaners flag em and pay me in steempower http://steemcleaners.org/report-abuse its VERY nice thank you @anyx for creatig that! (He also made @cheetah ) ANYWAY you can SEEth I give EVERYONE (Except pammers etc) a 1 cent or MORE upvot.
I usually reserve the 1to 4 cent upvotes for the LOW effort shitty 2 - 4 word cments like "Nice Post" because I want to give them a chance, I know they have no idea how bad their short comments seem, I just am happy these people are trying, they will lern
But if you leave a GOOD comment or a RELEVAT image or funny meme, AYTHIG of value, you will get atleast a 20 cent upvote and for REALLY good commens, DEPNDING on my vote power that day, youll get a $1 upvote, (and tha means atleast $2.50 in SBD~! )
SO I peronslay LOVE giving out comment upvotes, I see it as away o ensure that al my fans get to leae my blog with somethig real in their wallets
but no one has any right to be openly angry about expecting free money from whales jus because you commented n thir post... That's insane... Imgine if whales had to give 100% upvotes to every comment on their blogs, they would NEVER have any upvote power for QUALITY content!
Most comments are TRASH, thank GOD whales save their VP for actual quality content! But if you D leave a goodcomment, ill be the FIRST to reward you with a $1 upvote!
Now I apologize for my Ager all throughout this Blog, but IT MUST BE MADE CLEAR to the Noobs that the Reward pool I NOTTHEIR to fucking ARGUE over, they shoul dbe GRATEFUl for the crumbs they are gettig on this platform they had NOTHIG to do with until recently, Its like they walk into a restaurant they ddnt build, and demand a job and then demand they get a tip and get mad when they don't get a tip, and then they ask why the boss isn't giving them a dree bonus their fiurst day, because the Boss has all this extra money, and it would be "Free" to ut give you some money, it diesnt "cost " them anything to hand you some "extra: money they don need anyway rigt? Hahh fuckin communist bullshit I all I hear! And I won't stand for it!
There is NO SUCH THING as reward pool rape. You CANNOT steal from the reward pool
if you want more upvotes, buy or earn some steempower
Why do you sound so angry? Why the need to call us "entitled noobs?" Then since you are a whale, you should speak up to clarify the documentation of the steem platform. It is literally stated in the documentation that there is no cost associated with upvoting, posting, etc.
Without adoption, nobody will make money anyways soon will be worthless.
I might be a noob here, and I'm still learning, and I want to learn, and I want to improve the community in any way I can (I'm a software developer) and I'm already working in some applications that can help the community, but most of the greed I've seen around here is not by the new people, instead is by those with power, and fights between them for various reasons I've seen so far.
I want to see this platform thrive, and I hope I can help others once I become proficient with the system.
Kind Regards.
Very amazing answer. And no, this is not a begging for a vote and past that shit. but its rare to see such a good explanation on stuff that might be even really difficult to be understood even if its explained.
first i read "no such thing as reward pool rape," then this. Thanks for making it easier to understand.
@ackza I agree 100% with your comments. There is only 1 way to get steempower, and that’s hard effort. Whether you wrote good blogs and got up-voted or whether you got a day-job, saved some money and invested it in steem, it’s the same thing. Both require effort.
The second point is that no matter how good you are, you can’t just enter steemit and expect the whales to start following you and voting you. That takes a long time. It’s like when you join a company. You might be the brightest and best person in the entire company, but you still have to join at the bottom, and the directors at the top won’t know your name, or care much about how good you are. There is no fast-track.
Those who come here saying “I wrote brilliant high quality content, but everyone ignores me”, have the wrong motives, the wrong attitude, and are dooming themselves to failure.
In real life, rewards are not instant - like winning the lottery. They take a lifetime of effort.
In the virtual world rewards can come much faster. Six months of excellent blogging can turn you into a star. People still come here expecting to be a star on their first day. It’s like the losers on “Britain’s got Talent”, most of them won’t make it.
@ackza. I’d be careful with the use of capitals.
thanks for explain it
the money in the payout amount on each post fluctuates because it is tied to the overall Steem cryptocurrency blockchain which fluctuates in value.
people with small accounts whose votes only count for a penny, maybe up to 10-14 cents of "potential payout" have a hard time voting on a lot of posts because your voting power drops each time you vote. so, if you are only able to upvote something for a penny, like me, and you vote more than 10 times a day, you lose 20% of your voting power. If I were to keep voting anyway, my vote would no longer count for a penny because my voting power would become too low. As is right now, my voting power is below 75. My vote is no longer worth a penny. If I vote it is still moral support I guess, but my steemit penny has no monetary value to the author. When a person with hundreds of thousands of steem power upvotes comments, their votes are NOT worth a Steemit penny. Their votes could be worth a hundred or more dollars. So, lets say 100 people comment on a post like this (not spammers but good commenters, such as you and me, and the person posting has enough steem power to upvote a total of $200 worth, they could use that vote to upvote EACH COMMENT $2. That is why people are sort of upset. Instead of spreading the wealth to other members of steemit, the earnings, like for instance the $1800 earned on this post, are not being used even in a small way to support community participation, which is SUPPOSED to be a fundamental principle of steemit.
It is seen as bad taste to upvote your own post. I do and do not agree. Sometimes when a little account, called plankton or minnows, post good content, they earn very little. Cents. If they upvote themselves, they burn through one of their daily votes lowering their their voting power, but they earn so little to me its not a horrible thing. When people who have steem power high enough for a single $200 upvote, upvote themselves, they earn an addition $200 steemit dollars (combo of SBD and Steem) by barely even using voting power. That is what people consider reward pool rape. Paying yourself large amounts of money, then not distributing the wealth by supporting good quality content from posts or comments.
This is what I have come to understand from the just over two months I have been here. I hope that helped.
PLEASE DONT FLAG ME. I DID NOT ATTACK TO TAKE SIDES WITH ANYONE. I am neutral. There are two sides to this feud and I am not on either side. Just trying to help some newbs understand better how steemit works. { :
Thank you for clarifying. Your write up helped me a lot. I didn't understand about the Voting power and right now I'm at about 60% voting power. My account is a tiny little account with only 20ish Steem Power, Hopefully it will grow, I have a lot of faith long term on this plattform and I can already see that it is being used for good, however, some people that are up to no good seem to have a lot of power, hopefully that is a problem that gets fixed as the community grows.
Yes, I understand how you feel. What is helping me keep focus is basically paying attention to people and initiatives which are doing good, and trying to ignore the drama. Sometimes, though, the drama is pretty widespread and hard to completely avoid. Anyway, just try to focus on your goals here, and ESPECIALLY networking with likeminded people. Becoming friends and good acquaintances with people here is essential, in my opinion. if you are not already, you should consider joining the Peace Abundance & liberty Discord chat server to begin interacting with other people and making friends. If you go to @minnowsupport and look at their posts, you will find a discord link (I believe) to the chat room. I also have it listed at the bottom of all of my posts. Not trying to shill my posts, but I do have the invite link there if you have a hard time finding it other places.
@phedizzle I dont agree. This is not communism. Those who have steempower worked for it. It’s the same as having a large bank balance. You can keep the interest for yourself, or give it to whoever you please. You don’t have to spread it around, you can give it all to one person if you want.
If you would like to try being a dolphin or a whale for a week or more, you can lease as much steempower as you want through minnowbooster. It will only cost you a few dollars. For example, I could lease 9999 steempower for a one-off cost of just 166 steem or less. That’s a lot of bang for your buck.
If you vote it well, you will get back more than the cost of the lease.
So now you have invested your own money to lease steempower, who will you vote for?
Will you spread it around hundreds or thousands of blogs or will you vote for the two or three best ones?
Answer: It’s your choice. It’s your money. Do as you please. You can even just vote own blogs or comments if you want.
Its not free, it costs STEEMPOWER that is Steempower WE had to EARN or BUY ourselves, why would be be giving hat out for free?>!?!?! @bitcointip stop asking for welfare! @jerrybanfield doesn't OWE YOU SHIT wtf , you get a certain amount of money you can give out per day, it is called vote power, it goes down and then takes 5 days to charge back up all the wyif you use it all up.... Its NOT free... Its Money that can be given to yourself or your friends and fmily and fans and people you like, WHY would we be upvoting everyoen else when its OUR money t give out? ITS NOT FREE,
why do you always whine about not getting upvoted? Be better, and maybe youll get an upvte
you think everyoen who writes a shitty comment deserves a big upvote???
SORRY if I sound rude but I am TIRED of you noobs acting like you deserve all this free money just for showing up
most of you put no money in, you invest NOTHING and then you whine when you don't get enough free money
So youre a liar then,bcauise you HAVE to be interested in the onetary aspect or your either ALREADY wealthy, or youre just a fool... No one is notintrested in getting paid for thir work OK?
Stop acting like you are holier than thou, like YOURE just heer for the "unique content" and YOU don't care about the money, well MAYBE whenou actually start getting PAID you will?!?!
I'm TIRED of this naïve bullshit from noobs acting like they know better than experienced users ....
@ackza... @jerrybanfield put 10’s of thousands of dollars of his hard earned cash into Steem. He can do whatever he wants with his upvotes. It’ his money and his time.
All I can see is that @jerrybanfield is trying his best to make this platform more valuable for everyone, including himself. Is he going to make mistakes along the way? Sure. But I’ll bet that overall he will be great for the network in a lot of respects and one day his efforts may be a case study as to “what happened and why” as the future learns from him.
I take my hat off to Jerry and wish him much success without unnecessary criticism.
We need more Jerry’s that strive for excellence and don’t quit...
I found steemit thanks to Jerry. Since then I have produced hundreds of very high quality blogs and invested thousands of my own money into steem -which I believe will be a good investment.
I find him a bit nutty, but he’s a nice young guy who admits his own mistakes, and learns quickly from them. Also he is not attacking anyone. He is turning the other cheek to those who attack him.
I think steemit can thank him for attracting tens of thousands of bloggers. Steemit’s Alexa ranking has moved from 2175 to 962 in the last three months he has been running the steemit ad on youtube (an ad which he paid for out of his own pocket).