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RE: Hey @anyx, I want to propose @cheetah Bot Version 2 to Improve Steem

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From A publicly available website... probably take you tube for example. It's publicly available to us, if we provide a link back to the exact place the video came from is this still a problem. The actual video is still being viewed from YouTube just as an embedded item link. A reference to the link should be posted also in text. Is this not sufficient?

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In some cases, definitely yes. In other cases, definitely not.

With the YoutTbe video that you gave as an example, this is correct. Because you are not modifying this video, you are welcome to provide that source link (it's built into the embedded code and video player) and now you blog about the video. Your blog is permitted to fairly use this content the way you described.

This is not the case for every bit of borrowed content. In fact, there are situations on the flip-side of the coin in which things are borrowed without permission and sourcing it is not simple or not sufficiently fair.

Where I grew up, if you claim to borrow a person's property and enjoy its benefits without their permission, you are generally trespassing, stealing, or guilty of a some other legally prohibited action. My parents would make me make restitution for this "borrowing" to teach me a lesson and make me apologize.

You can fill in the blanks there. I will say more tomorrow. If you contact me privately, I can show you what I've got planned. Thanks!

Where I grew up, if you claim to borrow a person's property and enjoy its benefits without their permission, you are generally trespassing, stealing, or guilty of a some other legally prohibited action.

You do realize that there are people from all over the World on Steemit, right? And that not everyone follows the exact same code of ethics, right?

Is there a code of ethics which says that borrowing without permission is ok? Or is that too philosophic?

Should I post this in psychology? Or sociology? I am unaware of any such formal codes. I guess we could check the UN... maybe they have studied it.

Without a viable alternative to the trespassing/stealing metaphor, I say that your point is moot.

Such a code of ethics may exist, but that particular minority view is going to be drowned out in a global community like Steem. The most recent weekly post by the steemcleaners will show you ample evidence that my line of thinking is mainstream enough for the purposes of Steem content creation. They list dozens of cases of bad content, some of which they hide by downvoting.