I had to wind myself down from this previous conversation I was engaged in. In my case, it wasn't an abusive troll but a couple of guys wondering aloud if homosexuality is inherited from a past life as a consequence for too much sex.
By the time it was clear that not even a modicum of reason was to break through, I took the tact of just politely ending the conversation. I'm hoping we can all do this for each other when we come across conversations that challenge our patience.
For reference, this was the post. I'm not sharing to flame the guy, but just to share my first face palm moment on Steemit and how I think we can still (sometimes mistakenly) engage and are justified in disengaging.
The "discussion" goes down in the commentshttps://steemit.com/homosexuality/@miguel12/the-cause-of-homosexuality
Nice that you didn't insult them for not supporting your view! Upvoted. This is what the STEEM whitepaper espoused.
I probably should not have initiated conversation in the first place, but I spent 7 years in the military having to lie about stupid things like what gender I was approved to like. Since I don't know him or the culture and environment he's from, I didn't want to attack the person, just talk to them and try to get them to see me as more than a consequence of a past life. I figure this is what Steemit is going to excel at, crossing cultural boundaries without fear of censorship
What is reason? You call your belief system reason and his a mistake.
I was one of the people involved in that conversation. You think you are right just because the majority agrees with you. I asked you to please provide evidence of his beliefs being wrong and you completly turned around my question.
How is it that majority is right?
Added: If the majority had been always right you wouldn't be able to be open about your sexuality anytime in time. Do you see what I mean?
At no point did I say I was categorically correct and he false. I tried to converse to sway him to my opinion that our lives are more than just payback for "past lives".
What you wanted was for me to provide evidence for his opinions as though his were fact and it was my job to prove them wrong. That isn't my job. He could no more prove my opinion wrong than I his, and I didn't see you ask whether he could provide proof or evidence against mine.
The next time you feel you know what I think, please come with something better than the fallacy that the majority agrees with me. I never said that and it is clearly a red herring. The conversation became intellectually weak and could no longer support my participation. In part thanks to comments like yours that are less about the discourse and mire about being combative and putting words where none existed.
I "feel" I know what you think because you stated it in your post.
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So you're calling homosexuality a defect that comes from the adulterous behavior of the parents? With all due respect, no. Just. no.
There is nothing wrong with gay, just with the people who think it's a negative thing, like you. There may be something wrong with you if you truly believe that a person becomes gay as a punishment or because their parents were sluts. That being said, there's nothing wrong with sluts either.
What is wrong is that your idea assumes that gay is incorrect somehow, without any evidence.
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That "feels" like saying you were categorically correct and he false, to me.
dude we got to the bottom of what he actually believes and it can summed up by the three points I made at the end of the post in question.
He believes Hollywood is gay, being gay is a punishment for bad sexual behavior, and rape victims are responsible for their own rape in this life because they raped someone in a past life. It took several replies to get it clear, but go ahead and cherry pick my first post. Anyone who blames rape victims for their own rape and thinks gay sex is a punishment is bound for difficult conversations
This is my final post about it here, I don't want to hijack the comments section of this thread.
He wasn't offensive
He was just stating his beliefs. It was you who told him there is something wrong with him. So you need to prove that.
he said it was a consequence. not that it was wrong.
And you come and post about your comment there, here, because you think/know the majority will agree with you, and look down on him
He didn't say it was wrong, he said it was consequence, just like you stated
>> a couple of guys wondering aloud if homosexuality is inherited from a past life as a consequence for too much sex.
He also said later in the same way, he doesn't believe begging is wrong, but he believes beggars were greedy and rich in past lives.
Anyways, all the time we are talking about what he said or didn't, we are referring to actions. He talked about actions
On the contrary, you state that there is something wrong with him. That is why I asked you to prove it