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RE: To SBD or not to SBD – Why is That a Question?

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

What you don't understand is maintaining SBD is not free. Also it is not cheap. It's quite EXPENSIVE. SBD causes downward pressure on steem price. we have to get rid of it ASAP. I agree with NED. Does it even worked as a bait to lure ordinary ppl into steemit system? no. We have to think like a business man. If we used money to promote steemit on IT magazine instead of SBD, we would have much better result now. We have to be smart.

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We have to think like a business man.

Yeah - that's what I do. And as a businessman, I would much prefer to work with SBDs than with STEEM. If we want merchants to engage in commerce, then having the SBD option will bring more of them into the mix than having only a volatile cryptocurrency. What most of you fail to realize is that cryptocurrencies are volatile. STEEM is no different, with or without SBDs. Getting rid of SBDs won't auto-magically make the STEEM price more stable. It will only make onboarding merchants more difficult.

If you think like a businessman, then you should think about what benefit SBD brings to Steem price. So simple right? No benefit but serious cost! Let's say SBD lured merchant, what benefit steem get from that? NONE but price collapse. Since SBD is[ steem backed dollar], sbd will collapse too eventually. Sophisticated investors understand this and they don't invest money into steem! this is act of stupidity. We have to be smart.

Let's say SBD lured merchant, what benefit steem get from that? NONE but price collapse.

So you're dismissing network effect as a potentially enormous contribution to STEEM prices? Interesting.

Sophisticated investors understand this and they don't invest money into steem!

"Sophisticated investors" would likely understand the value or utility of a U.S. Dollar-pegged cryptocurrency and how it could greatly outweigh any pressures on STEEM prices. Also, those "sophisticated investors" would likely not invest in either STEEM or SBDs so long as the development and marketing of STEEM/Steemit is poor. This is a much larger issue than debt loads from SBDs.

As I said - I think like a businessman. I am one. There is much more value in SBDs for me as a potential merchant/investor using STEEM/SBDs for my business. If we want "to be smart," we need to stop confusing causes and effects and we need to stop trying to find reasons to eliminate features that will assist with onboarding users. STEEM/Steemit needs more people using the currency and platform. SBDs help with the onboarding issue, whether you want to believe that or not.

NO, there is NO SBD network effect.
SBD is only another form of DOLLAR. If SBD starting to take fee, merchants will simply change to paypal.
Network effect created when ppl actually use STEEM.
You are confusing two very different things.

If SBDs can actually lure merchants, as you suggested, then there certainly would be a network effect. Right now, there is no network effect, either for STEEM or SBDs. But - once again - this is not because SBDs exist.

Cause and effect. You're confusing or just completely missing them.

Tell me this: how do you scrap SBD without eliminating SBD holders' wealth? Are you advocating taking away the money that I've been saving in my SBD account? How can you be so flippant about my money?

Yeah - the problem here is that, given the choice, many people will simply leave the STEEM ecosystem. If your choices are STEEM/SP or holding something more stable, guess where the money will go.

If they're serious about getting rid of SBDs and actually do it, my prediction is that STEEM fails anyway. This isn't a conversation that should be had right now or any time in the near future. There is no support and little interest for STEEM and there is even less interest in the Steemit social media interface. If SBDs were to be eliminated, there would be very few reasons to care about STEEM/Steemit from an investor/merchant perspective. And bloggers would probably just cash out as quickly as the STEEM came in because there would be no other way to protect their earnings from volatility (which would mostly just be declines).

Yes, the price is low - and yes, we need to start talking about debt loads and ratios. But the problem isn't that serious and can be pretty much resolved by adjusting the holdings of the various @steemit and Steemit, Inc. accounts anyway. There seems to be a lot of fuss and scare tactics about how "bad" SBDs are for STEEM, but nobody seems to want to address the actual issues that have been driving STEEM prices down since July.

The arguments are bad and these people should feel bad.

The arguments are bad and these people should feel bad.

Haha, perfect. I love it.