@razvanelulmarin The problem could also be a bit too much self love. There is a real sense of entitlement in the world in general right now. Some schools were trying to dumb down STEM topics so that everyone could feel self esteem about being smart in these topics.
School ended up with one of the lowest graduation rates in the country. sure I failed, but I feel great and love myself and accept myself just as I am
Nah man, real love for ones self needs to come from taking pride in the accomplishments you've made and learning from your failures.
Empathy though, that means you need to care about others, and that's a hard thing to teach. You have to get people to care and to stand by their convictions but to also see and understand the other persons viewpoint, by trying to understand their life. Walk a mile in their shoes and all that Jazz. It's not a hard lesson, but I hear it's something they don't teach in school anymore either.
I understand your point of view but if you don't mind it too much, I think you are wrong on forcing an "=" between self-love and accomplishment.
I say this from my own experience and the experience of others, self love must be given without conditions. Because if you put conditions like...acomplishment right? It's really difficult to be perfectly objective
"i'll love myself when I'll be a doctor." I'm a doctor but..." I'll love myself when i'll help 1000 patients" I did that but...
It's what we call a "mving goalpost" and one can allow this kind of fallacy to be in the way of self love.
Confidence and self esteem should be highly connected with accomplishments, yes.
But even that. It's so weird.
I have this friend..he looks amazing, right? yet , he think he looks average or worse and couldn't talk with a girl if his hair was on fire and she had a bucket of water.
He is also very accomplished in his field, but his self-esteem is as low as anything.
It's very very hard to have the final say on this.
Entitlement thought is not self-love in my opinion. It's an expression of insecurity doubled by a lack of self-awareness.
We can talk forever about this...it's a fascinating topic.
But thanks for being opened. The more reasonable and intelligent voices we can bring here, the more we'll push the level of discourse.
I love that
@razvanelulmarin Tell you what, this is turning into something WAY off topic for this particular topic. Why don't you make a blog post on the topic then come back click my name, find my latest blog and come send me and invite (following doesn't work yet).
I'll come to your blog and we can debate this stuff. I have a ton of things to say, but Dan's blog isn't the place to have that talk. Also we've hit the comment depth limit here.
Also you're very welcome for the civil discourse. I enjoy this too, alot...
Here's a pic of my enjoying my favorite past time... credit www.xkcd.com/386
@razvanelulmarin The problem could also be a bit too much self love. There is a real sense of entitlement in the world in general right now. Some schools were trying to dumb down STEM topics so that everyone could feel self esteem about being smart in these topics.
School ended up with one of the lowest graduation rates in the country.
sure I failed, but I feel great and love myself and accept myself just as I am
Nah man, real love for ones self needs to come from taking pride in the accomplishments you've made and learning from your failures.
Empathy though, that means you need to care about others, and that's a hard thing to teach. You have to get people to care and to stand by their convictions but to also see and understand the other persons viewpoint, by trying to understand their life. Walk a mile in their shoes and all that Jazz. It's not a hard lesson, but I hear it's something they don't teach in school anymore either.
I understand your point of view but if you don't mind it too much, I think you are wrong on forcing an "=" between self-love and accomplishment.
I say this from my own experience and the experience of others, self love must be given without conditions. Because if you put conditions like...acomplishment right? It's really difficult to be perfectly objective
"i'll love myself when I'll be a doctor." I'm a doctor but..." I'll love myself when i'll help 1000 patients" I did that but...
It's what we call a "mving goalpost" and one can allow this kind of fallacy to be in the way of self love.
Confidence and self esteem should be highly connected with accomplishments, yes.
But even that. It's so weird.
I have this friend..he looks amazing, right? yet , he think he looks average or worse and couldn't talk with a girl if his hair was on fire and she had a bucket of water.
He is also very accomplished in his field, but his self-esteem is as low as anything.
It's very very hard to have the final say on this.
Entitlement thought is not self-love in my opinion. It's an expression of insecurity doubled by a lack of self-awareness.
We can talk forever about this...it's a fascinating topic.
But thanks for being opened. The more reasonable and intelligent voices we can bring here, the more we'll push the level of discourse.
I love that
@razvanelulmarin Tell you what, this is turning into something WAY off topic for this particular topic. Why don't you make a blog post on the topic then come back click my name, find my latest blog and come send me and invite (following doesn't work yet).
I'll come to your blog and we can debate this stuff. I have a ton of things to say, but Dan's blog isn't the place to have that talk. Also we've hit the comment depth limit here.
Also you're very welcome for the civil discourse. I enjoy this too, alot...
Here's a pic of my enjoying my favorite past time...
credit www.xkcd.com/386