@ainie.kashif - My thoughts on the topic of the week,
Firstly, Thank-you for having such an important discussion and topic for discussion.
Secondly, I think we need to seek finding our our style and personality on steemit. Sometimes this offends some people but others will appreciate it; if we truly believe in what we are doing. Having said this we should not be openly confrontational, but seek to educate and defend our positions.
Thirdly, having been involved in some red flagging incidents both receiving and giving. I believe that some incidents needs to be flagged out-rightly such as vulgar and obscene comments. However, some comments simply needs guidance and and understanding. I have experience harsh and bullying behaviour from senior members, fortunately I was able to work it out and explain my behaviour. On the flip side those individuals who guided and assisted me are key people for me on steemit today (just like you @ainie.kashif and @kobusu).
Fourthly, I've found that not all people are community based (very conservative, if you know what I mean) individuals and defend their blog post as if it is the richest square mile on earth. Not Cool, but just be aware. I believe that are blog posts should be a melting pot of various views and influences. If we don't like or agree with a post or comment - we have several options before flagging it (unless it is grossly obscene), we can ignore, we can educate, we defend, we can reject...etc
Fifthly, I don't condone spamming, but we must realise why spamming exists - It is because it make us more productive and efficient. So if my culture is to be productive then am I not unfairly being flagged? Personally I've had to adapt my style to conform and don't seem to have any issues lately, but I still feel productive. Just as we have the responsibility of educating the spammers we need to take on the responsibility for educating those strict flaggers we drive fear into newbies. They must realise that they sometimes abuse their power.
Finally, begging culture is rife but it has become part of the steemit environment, so much so that it is part of introduction posts. I think we must not condone it BUT we need to educate and be patient with those who are unaware. I was not aware that requesting an upvote was "begging", in some cultures it's haggling and business as usual. Sometime a lot of the people that flag without educating have evolved to become snobs. I hope this is not too harsh, but we have to avoid the possiblity of steemit becoming so rigid that we lose our individualities and personalities in the process. Personally, I have removed the footer Comment, upvote, resteem and follow from my posts, as I believe that this is what started the begging culture! Why is it ok to have these words at the bottom of your post, but it is not ok to beg to haggle for them? lol...I hope i haven't created too much mayhem with that statement.
I trust that my contribution brings a slight different perspective to the topic.
And that concludes my presentation...
Firstly yes we must have our own style and personality, that’s what I called branding strategy.
Secondly, I understand on how you must have felt when you are being flagged many times, I would feel the same if I am in your place. Anyway, we are all juniors and we all are still in a learning phase and we know that we can build our own potential and become better along the way.
Thirdly, yes I agree some people are not community based and are very harsh and defensive with their posts. We knew how they behave and who they are, so we should avoid them at all cost right. There is no point fighting with the big guys and trying to move the mountain. It is definitely a waste of your time and resources.
Fourthly, you must know that being productive is okay but if you are continuously being flagged, it will lower down your reputation level. It is very important to know that if your reputation score goes below 0, Steemit will hide your posts and comments which will affect your monetary rewards and your followers.
Finally, in my opinion you can place in your own post any footer that you like, this is called pull factor. Your page, your posts are your own territory and you are not barging in someone else's territory so that is okay. The push factor is when you are pushing those footer that you have mentioned into the face of others which where the terms begging arises.
My two cents and thanks so much for this discussion, wishing you a pleasant day.Hi @rlt47, I wish to put forward my thanks for seriously engaging yourself in our group discussion and put your serious thoughts on what are being discussed. There are few of your opinions that I must agree...
@ainie.kashif, thank-you for your equally elaborate response...
I like that big word you used branding strategy.
I think that when it comes to being flagged one needs to assess and evaluate, keep the good and drop the bad, but don't stop being yourself. The real problem I have with flagging is that it uses "violence" to make people conform.
I hope you don't mind me harping on this point a little longer as it is a debate / educational session. I don't fight these guys but it is important to educate flaggers in 2 aspects.
a) they have a responsibility to teach newbies before flagging.
b) that their behaviour is bordering on bully tactics.
It is important that each Steemit user use their own discretion and not self-destruct - Rule 1, lol!
The adding of a footer is obviously a personal matter, however for newbie it is very confusing as it was in my case; and if a user comes from a haggling culture it automatically kicks in that instinct to hustle... I personally decided not to add to the confusion that newbies might experience. The fact is they need positive role-models, who proves that no begging or requests for up votes is necessary at all.
With my two cents we now have four cents...lol! Have a fantastatabulous (spelling intended) day!
Hi @rlt47, we all knew that this wired world of steemit has no leader, just some big whales, dolphins and policing bots who rules with massive Steem Power, so some of them tend to abuse their power and that’s a fact. I also do not condone any type of bullying in this case, perhaps we can call this behavior sort of cyber bullying, but all this can be easily avoided by observing anyone before you enter to comment on their page. Maybe it’s just being at the wrong place at the wrong time. All of us decided to join Steemit and engage on our own discretion. It’s either play safe or take risk. Your choice my friend.
hahahaha, I like cyber bullying. Here is our anti-cyber bullying campaign mascot and slogan - LOL!
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