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RE: Case 6: busting @annart's Ukrainian fake artist ring

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

I also got approached by the Facebook account of the real Elena asking me for help but unfortunately couldn't help as much as I wanted. I will keep a close eye on this.

What I did notice was the way this person writes and posts. The type of posts (less text, not longer than 500 words or so) and a lot of random )) midsentence. Also the lack of English grammar stands out.

I noticed that all the accounts have delegates SP. Would be cool to see where this is coming from - we could probably figure out the root of this. I also noticed that all accounts seem to resteem eachother. This means that we could also probably figure out more accounts operated by this person.

@uacobra also seems to transfer to the same Bittrex account you mentioned above.

I would love to see the chats between Elena and the scammer though..

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You can ask the real Elena on Facebook, she has them!

I have not received them from her directly but through a middleman, she herself did say this:

but you see, i really feel sorry for her, she just tried to earn some money and somehow survive in this life. I just want to block fake account @elena2017, that's all.

I am honoring this.

I found more accounts sending funds to the same Bittrex accounts:

@TatyanaSV
@unlovedgirl

I also came across another account which has already been flagged down: @uneducated @svetlanaart

Oh wow. This person is pretty hardcore at scamming.

I just checked that link and got. "This post was hidden due to low ratings."

yes, because it has already been downvoted, there's a button that let's you reveal the content, though!

We can't do much though. All we can do is flag the account and posts down - but the account will keep on existing on the platform. :l

yes, unfortunately so, as the account @nataliadobrick shows very well.

no, once @cheetah has them on it's blacklist, they will be doomed.

Yes ofcourse, but literally blocking it isn't possible is all I am saying :)

Once an account reputation is destroyed, then the account basically ceases to exist. There have been people who are reformed, so it is possible......Steemit uses reputation and community involvement to bring social change. Banning is done by centralized corps. We use the community to bring about punishment

Steemit, I am told, does have centralized means of actually blocking accounts. I am told by a party (who I will not name, as I have no confidence in them whatsoever, due to their acts) that Steemit has blocked them from an account.

I have no more information than this, but I do believe that websites aren't able to be rendered immune from such controls. It is simply the nature of code that, on a site served from servers under the control of Stinc, the users of that site can be censored.

This is the only instance I have heard of it being done. I also cannot certify that it happened, clearly, as I do not have access to the server logs.

However, I can see no impediment to it being done, particularly in cases which create a threat to Steemit itself.

Generally, I believe that Stinc does not do this, and you are correct that the community itself is self-correcting. That does not make it impossible that censoring is both possible, and has been undertaken, at least once., by Stinc.

 7 years ago  Reveal Comment

She could have been honest and present the work of this artist. You can't go around trying to impersonate people. From what it looks like she paid more than what her post generated.

Yeah I know - that's why I find it so weird that she did another post about it.

Thats what I always think... But it isnt fair either to the many folk on here who struggle with English as a second language but remain honest.

You can browse through the blockchain history to find who delegated on https://steemd.com/@username. However when you register on steemit, you're delegated 27SP to help you get started.

Ah, I can't seem to find the delegation so far but the account of Elena has been around for quite some time, so the new user delegation shouldn't apply to her.

I am contacting the real Elena now in Facebook. We will get this resolved.