Eh, I can follow to a point. Subjectively there very much are good vs bad posts, we each have our own method of judgement on this.
It's easy to fall into the 'monoculture' trap of always searching to stuff to vote the same way (for those that do still manually vote) and I can't really give too much fault there. Sometimes it's purely a pattern we fell into.
Now this changes a bit when it comes to the whales since that's what really effects the payouts of things. So many of them have joined or allocated voting power to curation guilds. Many of these do a great job at spreading things around WAY better than used to be done.
Marketing (getting your content seen) and networking (building your name recognition) are things rarely mentioned outside of the pure content. The same thing goes on in book sales, blogging, etc. anywhere...there is just too much stuff to catch it all, and people find authors that they like. True it's a little different here since it's voting, but the underlying human nature still applies (imo.)
I really don't thing anyone here truly expects that EVERYTHING that someone votes on in read in full, in particular the longer written or video posts. (Art, photography, etc. can be digested in a much shorter period of time.) It's a double edged sword we just have to deal with on some level. There's some stuff that is actually digested and voted up because it was liked (regardless of others good vs bad judgement) and then there is the rest that goes to pure curation (regardless of quality, but focusing on 'popularity) for the SP rewards.
In the end it's a mix of judging/voting good content (or for whatever reason the vote was cast...sometimes I vote things because I've seen effort and/or progress) and the vote for SP rewards. It's just the game, everything in life to some respect is a similar game.
While I know it's not always liked...my personal take is get better both at my personal skills AND get better at the game.
I think that everyone should at least spend 10 seconds to look at the post they are going to curate so they don't upvote randomly. No need to read whole article but just have general view if it is not some awfully edited copypasta or "1 sentence 1 YT video link post".
If, after that, we still get bamboozled into upvoting some content that appears duebious (plagiarism etc), then we should be willing to remove the vote or flag when steemcleaners point it out.
"Art, photography, etc. can be digested in a much shorter period of time.) "
I agree that it is easy to digest but also this is often high quality content because people invest a lot of their effort to create it good quality art. The amount of effort put to create art can be easily judged. That includes photography - you have to spend a lot of time and trials to take good shot of something.
I absolutely agree that spending at least a little time actually inside the post is the ideal...or at least somebody in the sense of a curator with autovote followers. In some sense that proposed change to reduce the amount of 100% votes (from 40 to 5) could help with with, since we wouldn't feel pressured to 'use all our votes.' We've all only got so many hours in the day to post, chat, comment, promote, etc. on top of actually digesting/voting on posts...oh and life itself outside of steemit. Personally this is somewhat how I took it when @dantheman said the 40-5 vote per day allowance (vs the vote power % regen rate) was needed a better understanding from the userbase. (I could be wrong on this, just my take.) But as it stands, I suspect that even the best of us have a hard time fully digesting long form written posts. This specifically is why I commonly taught newer people on how to make their content easy to scan via headings, bolded words/phrases, etc. so that after the second paragraph or so, when most people just start scrolling down, can still follow and grasp the main points being made. Time constraints and attention scarcity can somewhat (even if imperfect) battled in this way.
On the found plagiarism posts I'm totally on the same page there. I can say that I do this myself (remove upvotes, sometimes flag) when this is the case and I see it. The hard part there is that we don't always go back to a post after the fact to even see the steemcleaner comment. I will say it irks me a bit when I have seen things be upvoted even after the comment was made and it would be nice for the userbase in general to be on the look out for that.
I should say that I have absolutely no issue with art, photography, etc. is easier/quicker to digest. I do not mean that they hold any less value than written posts, just merely referring to the required 'curation' time for these. We just rarely hear complaints about these visually transmitted posts being rewarded while 'poor quality.' Usually the complaints seem to be around the non-visual, written ones...the only reason I made that distinction.
Hey there, do you think since you are kinda techy, you could comment with your ideas here??? Thanks for everything... BD
https://steemit.com/steemit/@barrydutton/steemit-needs-please-comment-with-your-ideas-to-improve-steemit-e-1
I just said this above to @thecryptofiend
" I was in threads recently with @donkeypong etc -- and agreed that short form posts have a place and can be great posts. Not everyone can spend time on a long post -- either writing or reading it. They have a purpose for sure. You will see my odd post up stating Short Form Post right in the title so people know it is short. Not meaning it is crappy lol
Clinical issues or time constraints both play a role in people not having the ability to read long posts, even though some are just beauties. You know what I am saying "
Absolutely! :) I'm very much on the same page. Sure there will be things for us to tweak and learn on curating short posts, but def see it as a good addition for Steemit to bring onboard! :)
I remember not too long ago when games weren't being allowed by the community (like steemsports, guess how many challenges, etc...) because they were viewed as vote buying. Not only have they become some of the more popular posts that are out there, they also provide a way to spread steem/SP around to users. A great learning curve for the community with that I see as a great benefit in the end. :)