Hat tip to @alexpmorris for the howto from last week.
Does @Randowhale work after hardfork 19?
After the recent Hardfork on June 20, 2017, I got a massive bump in my pending payouts. It was a 6 fold increase in value. Please see my post about how I got a 6 fold increase literally overnight.
This got me thinking, what about the old whale voting idea? Now that my posts were worth $40 to $60 SBD instead of $7 SBD, they now met the criteria for a whale vote massively increasing the value! (Thanks go to @alexpmorris, his post was very insightful!)
So I took a snapshot of my "pending payouts." To those who have never seen this tool, it's found here on Steemviz.com.
Here is a summary of the modest bump I got
This was after paying @randowhale $2 SBD per post on three posts. I think everyone can see that I got more than my $6 SBD back, even with the notorious low SP percent that often happens.
Before
(Screenshots from Steemviz. Credit goes to @ausbitbank for the server and hard work!)
After 3 @Randowhale votes costing $6 SBD
(Screenshots from Steemviz. Credit goes to @ausbitbank for the server and hard work!)
Followup post: See the @Randowhale Smackdown by Whaleshares
💲 Whaleshares 💲 are working great after the Hardfork (proof)
Move over @Randowhale, you are about to get swallowed up!
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I disagree. It may be temporarily beneficial for the person getting a small bump in their potential payout, but the whole idea of selling upvotes may very well be the undoing of the whole Steemit system. The point of curation is to ensure that the best content gets rewarded. If any content can be upvoted for the right price, then the purpose of curation is thwarted. In the end, this will not be good for the Steemit community.
In the free market, the ones with the valuable assets are generally able to use them for profit.
In real estate, there are land owners who lease their land to businesses who want the best location.
In the case of the owner of @randowhale, he sees a way to profit from the value of his holdings. I think on Steem, there is blatantly a sour taste when it comes up like this. Should he be able to profit from his valuable assets?
Your argument is valid, however. This "whale" should be leveraging his power to influence new and valuable citizens.
In effect, the @randowhale is permitting poor quality, seedy businesses to lease his land. That's not good for the Steem community, even if it's profitable for him.
Maybe we should deter @randwhale from doing this, but in the end, you would need the Steem police to prevent this. Didn't you just say that you're against the Steem police stepping in?
Seems like you were against the police before you were for it. Without someone "forcing" the whales to submit to community decency rules (like auto downvoting them with a bot or changing the rules), there won't be a way to stop @randowhale if he is not inclined to stop.
I see this as an experiment. I don't know if getting $1000 SBD a day is that big of a deal to @randowhale. Or if anyone is super concerned enough to go battle it out with him. Because, at the end of the day, didn't he earn this money? Is the community truly being harmed by this? Aren't there examples of good content posts getting upvoted and getting better payouts? Isn't he providing a service?
Maybe take it up with the witnesses you vote for. Tell them it's unsustainable. Gang up on @randowhale. Or blog about it. Get a grass-roots coup started to overthrow him, hardfork him out of his Steem Power, or whatever.
Just be sure to wear that badge.... 👮
Good luck with that.
I'd like to see it from all angles, @randowhale. I know you are not a whale of many words, so I tried to put some words into your baleen.
Is your service good or bad for the Steem community? Would you care to comment? Can I interview you on the record for your views on the topic?
Are you, single-flipperly, responsible for the low-quality posts on Steem and the seedy, unintelligible garbage that rises to the surface?
Are you planning the destruction of Steem Platform, one ill-gotten SBD at a time, until you have all of the money and there's just a cesspool left behind in your wake?
Are you a kind, gentle, cuddly, massive creature of friendliness, misunderstood and shunned because of some misunderstandings, shunned just because you don't like to talk with plankton and krill in your mouth?
Just wondering... Maybe I am defending the indefensible.
I don't think @randowhale needs defending at this point. There are 99 happy users for every 1 who has a complaint. If you want to bump your post, pay for a vote, chances are if you use it correctly you'll receive more reward than you put in. There's really nothing else to it, it's exactly what it seems.
My post was pretty clear. I like the option of @randowhale because it is a strategic decision. Your detractors like @bluerthangreen are saying that poor content is getting upvoted, which is detrimental to Steem.
I would ask for proof that this is happening.
Because when I strategically use @randowhale, I have already had a number of upvotes through some other means, and the post is already of some value.
A single upvote from @randowhale is not going to pump up a post too much or give it enough gravity to make worthless posts valuable.
I may be preaching to the choir here, but the proper use of @randowhale is to add him to a chorus of voices that are already singing the same tune. He drowns out most voices, but he is not a solo artist.
My friend @bluerthangreen is of the opposite side. I am pretty sure you can tell I was joking about "planning the destruction of Steem Platform," which was clearly the innuendo when he wrote about "the undoing of the whole Steemit system" at the head of this thread.
I don't see @randowhale as a curation bot, but rather a payout pumping bot. I don't know if that distinction is worth more comment, but that's a counter-point to @randowhale allegedly ruining post curation.
Curation isn't "thwarted" by a payout bot.
@randowhale you doing a great job. I think a lot of people are missing the point. It is easy to be puritan. It is easy to say right no commercial stuff on steemit, but I think that misses the point. randowhale has found a service to provide and benefiting a lot of people.
As a form of speculation, you can go to a post you see as could do better and make it earn for everyone a better result. It is why we put together http://www.steemsea.stream - aka @steemsea
What I understand with @randowhale is that he put up some money to be able to offer that as a service and it is a gem.
Really don't like the attitude from the two posters. Someone has been enterprising and the only view is act like you the law lol.
I think it would be considered attempted bullying, scaremongering and not good for progress. I have had to like many others stand up against this kind of thing against bitcoin itself. But you have all sorts and yes, can have own opinion.
Sorry just a bit miffed because in London we have just recently had one terror attack from some calling themselves muslims with a divine right to intrude others views, and then an attack from a Brit against them. Everyone is allowed to act as they believe.
How else are we to progress. Think you should start with the second world war and so many other instances where such a view always makes division not tolerance.
Sad to see we got people like that on steemit with intolerance for progress and experimentation. This sounds like the shift in China from a capitalist country to communism and then forcing everyone to a specific point of view. Don't think its valid so muting.
Rant over.
@randowhale is also structured to provide more reward than the initial cost, when used smartly. Many don't like my owner so there's some of that as well.
Yes, the way post rewards work, see what you mean by doing it smartly. As @randowhale is quite fast to upvote after payment, it offers an interesting way to increase a posts value. With people not liking your owner, don't worry about it.
You have looked at the technology and seen something you could add to it. It is exactly what we done with @steemsea . You just keep doing what you doing because this is how the entire bitcoin eco system and blockchain eco systems have evolved because those with ideas take action and the good thing is that your service is working. Focus on your lovers hehe.
Create a great day,
@kozan
No, I'm still against police. Discussing it so that people are made aware of the consequences is the way to making consensus. That is hopefully what we're doing.