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RE: Do not send sbd or steem to @randowale or @randomwhale

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

I see why you are downvoted after reading some of your posts. You are trying to basically spread fear. Just reevaluate why you are downvoted and open a discussion about it. Get involved in the community. Spamming everywhere doesn't help you.

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Also, downvoting is NOT a good thing in steem...it gives to much power to too few with Steem Power....there should only be upvotes and nothing more...this is a huge flaw in Steemit that I will be writing about in Google soon....downvotes are a means for the minority to control what the majority have to say. In result,, there is no real fee speech in Steemit....thus until this changes, then Steemit will not attract many quality content writers and it will fail

beating up new users and calling them "cunts" and push them around to leave or indoctrinate them is not how the free market and free speech works, unless you are from a socialist state....then that is how people behave if you step out of line

Oh that is mature....have a nice day...

You can't anyway. Your tiny downvote makes zero impact relative to a millionaire. The only thing downvotes presently do is crush accounts at the whim of whales.

edit: I should say the tiny vote of krill and minnows, as you may not be a minnow. Don't know, don't care. If you're well off, good on ya. If you're not, welcome to the club.

Before Steemit? If you mean on sites like fakebook, then downvotes have a use case in indicating sentiment, although I reckon that just encourages people to remain divided, rather than to enter into civilized debate, which has potential to reach agreement.

But one downvote there can't have the kind of negative impact which it can here. Anyway, I don't fakebook for other reasons, censorship, propaganda, and data mining amongst the most salient.

I don't want to give the impression that I adhere to some kind of communistic policy, or advocate redistribution of your money to my bank account. I don't. I really don't care much about wealth, personally.

But I am unaware of a good reason for downvotes on Steemit in their present form. for spam, plagiarism, etc., a downvote that is based on reputation, rather than wealth, has a use case, and can easily be applied by the community I will allow that it is probably pretty satisfying to crush some asshole that has it coming. I'm not convinced that's a benefit to the community.

However, regardless of this guys statements having merit, which I am not implying, what benefit to Steemit is achieved by a whales downvote on his post?

Perhaps he will be silenced, cowed by the economic impact of the vote. I don't believe that makes Steemit better. There need to be diverse voices, or there is no point in conversation. I depend on people disagreeing with me to cause me to consider my opinions, and often am provided new information that does change my mind.

Perhaps he will go on a rampage (as he seems to be) and make every effort to rally like minded followers to start a flagging war. @dwinblood has well stated the undesirability of that result.

I just don't see that wealth weighted downvotes can be a positive for Steemit. You seem to feel that there is a beneficial purpose they can achieve (I make that assumption based on your correct statement that they are fully allowed and able to be cast within the rules of Steemit completely at will), so I ask that you explain why you feel that way.

I've actually asked some folks that feel that way, but never been answered, in a substantive way.

Thanks for you substantive response, that provided me information I didn't have before. No one has mentioned, nor have I read, that downvoting costs voting power, until you (I am just about to tackle the white paper, if I can stop myself from commenting).

I have noted that a whale not self voting would be essentially throwing away $100's or $1000's weekly, and that this is a strong motivation for them to NOT vote on the posts of others. Recently @jerrybanfield posted that, instead of selfvoting for an estimated $1800/week, he was going to upvote others posts. This made quite a stir.

The fact that it made quite a stir shows that it's not a common practice.

I still do not understand how krill like myself having a downvote might have any affect on the reward pool. The fact that 1% of accounts receive 99% of author rewards (at least up to HF19) shows that whales upvote their posts and do get almost all the new Steem thereby.

Downvotes seem to have nothing to do with it.

Your (colorful) explanation of how downvotes discourage content you find objectionable is more understandable than how I have viewed that discouragement in the past. I will give the issue a lot more thought.

Thanks!

I was a stock analyst for many years....spreading fear? that is you opinion as I have an opinion about what i am seeing in many digital currencies right now...but that is no reason to beat up and stalk a person either...that is called Cyber Bullying...