There is no down voting on Steemit, only flags! Please guys get this right! There is a very good reason there is not any down voting, which an example is the conversation I am seeing above on this tread. The designers of this platform thought this through. Down voting was determined to be very bad for social cohesion. The only thing available is UP voting and FLAGS, and flags are ONLY meant for violation of the rules, not for dislike of posts. Again there is a very real reason it is set up this way. If you dislike a post, just don't up vote!!
The current penalty (and only one available) is that the account that is abusing the flagging option is likely going to receive flags on their post until they abide by the flagging rules.
@tuck-fheman Thanks for the information. That penalty is wholly insufficient in my opinion. If someone flags my post when it shouldn't have been flagged, and my only option is to retaliate by falsely-flagging their post, I'm not going to flag their post out of fear of retaliation.
By "the only one available" do you mean there are no other options that would be possible to implement in the future? Or do you mean it's the only option available at this time.
By "the only one available" do you mean there are no other options that would be possible to implement in the future? Or do you mean it's the only option available at this time.
It's the only option available at this time.
If someone flags my post when it shouldn't have been flagged, and my only option is to retaliate by falsely-flagging their post, I'm not going to flag their post out of fear of retaliation.
This is when you can enlist the help of a whale or two or three. There are bots that could also help until the flagging abuser gets the point. I'm not saying it's the best option, but currently it is the best option if they will not remove the flags.
Maybe you are referring to my comment on your recent post. I was making the point that there is no down voting on Steemit. Your video mentioned down voting, and what I think you meant was flagging. Many of us are used to the up/down vote concept because of other popular social media. Steemit is better. It is clearly thought out and set up to create the most socially cohesive, synergetic and effective community in social media. Thus, no down vote.
I have to agree @dollarvigilante. I appreciate all your work and everything--but I do think it is wrong to mischaracterize everything as being the fault of @berniesanders. There was a long line of people who apparently flagged you.
There is a reason for this: They did not value the post! So instead of complaining spend your time creating more content that you think they will LIKE! This is the free market man and you are starting to sound like you are crying because one of your posts didn't make it?
Obviously if you dislike the results compared to your other posts, it would be a good idea to consider changing tactics (if the loss of money is what concerns you). Otherwise you can keep posting things that a large cross section of the community will value less than you do and know that it is not going to be censored as it is logged on a blockchain (which is precisely the most powerful aspect of this system).
Love you bro but wholly disagree that you were censored.
And dont forget...if sentiment changes...others will upvote it more over time (you can still get paid from a post for 4 more weeks after the first payout!) and a consensus will be reached. :)
Fuzzy, much respect, but on this one I think your view is going to create problems for this platform for in the future. Mind you , I'm not taking about your view on the quality of DollarVigilantes posts, on that I may somewhat agree. However, I am referring to the fact that fagging is being used as down-voting, and by the whales no less! Please review your stance and consider the future implications of this. It can be disastrous. Very likely to end up like "Reddit with a paycheck". One must ask, if this is the intent, why no down arrow? Be that as it may, I must say that if this is in fact the structure and policy, then I may have indeed been somewhat mistaken regarding my opinion of the genius of the platform.
On another note, will KenCode be on a hang-out anytime soon?
To the folks upvoting this comment, this type of ad hominem (personal attack) has no place on Steemit. Even if you agree with the sentiment, please consider whether this is the type of vibe you want to encourage.
I don't think he's a bad person. His intent was to help he was just overwhelmed by success and it came off wrong, this is a well thought assumption of course. I posted close to 1200 post on here and some in which had great content hours to do and even days to complete a short fiction book, and some was fast posts to get a quick point or opinion out.The day come I make 1000 bucks shit I might think I'm steemit rich too lmao! Let's not condemn the dollarV too much, it's the whales who pays us not anyone else. They don't like many others content not just mine, so be cool and do it for the experience:)
There is no down voting on Steemit, only flags! Please guys get this right! There is a very good reason there is not any down voting, which an example is the conversation I am seeing above on this tread. The designers of this platform thought this through. Down voting was determined to be very bad for social cohesion. The only thing available is UP voting and FLAGS, and flags are ONLY meant for violation of the rules, not for dislike of posts. Again there is a very real reason it is set up this way. If you dislike a post, just don't up vote!!
Do you know if there's a penalty for flaging posts that don't violate the rules? If not, I think that needs to change.
I agree. In general the whole flagging process needs
The current penalty (and only one available) is that the account that is abusing the flagging option is likely going to receive flags on their post until they abide by the flagging rules.
@tuck-fheman Thanks for the information. That penalty is wholly insufficient in my opinion. If someone flags my post when it shouldn't have been flagged, and my only option is to retaliate by falsely-flagging their post, I'm not going to flag their post out of fear of retaliation.
By "the only one available" do you mean there are no other options that would be possible to implement in the future? Or do you mean it's the only option available at this time.
It's the only option available at this time.
This is when you can enlist the help of a whale or two or three. There are bots that could also help until the flagging abuser gets the point. I'm not saying it's the best option, but currently it is the best option if they will not remove the flags.
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Exactly! "flags are ONLY meant for violation of the rules"
Plagiarism and Spam would fall under "violation of rules" which flagging is intended to address.
How can flags be for violating the rules when there are no rules?
Flags are for abuse, which we judge for ourselves individually just as we judge value in upvotes.
Thanks so much for your post as we need to get this straight in out minds and abide by the rules.
Absolutely no problem. Glad to help. The platform is sorely missing in basic instruction and guide lines. I expect this will change soon.
I'm trying to get more people to use this platform? What did I do wrong? I think I'm missing something here.
You're good luke.
Maybe you are referring to my comment on your recent post. I was making the point that there is no down voting on Steemit. Your video mentioned down voting, and what I think you meant was flagging. Many of us are used to the up/down vote concept because of other popular social media. Steemit is better. It is clearly thought out and set up to create the most socially cohesive, synergetic and effective community in social media. Thus, no down vote.
Absolutely no problem. Glad to help. The platform is sorely missing in basic instruction and guide lines. I expect this will change soon.
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Maybe an "Idiot's Guide To Steemit" is in order.
Nice @lukewearechange
I have to agree @dollarvigilante. I appreciate all your work and everything--but I do think it is wrong to mischaracterize everything as being the fault of @berniesanders. There was a long line of people who apparently flagged you.
There is a reason for this: They did not value the post! So instead of complaining spend your time creating more content that you think they will LIKE! This is the free market man and you are starting to sound like you are crying because one of your posts didn't make it?
Obviously if you dislike the results compared to your other posts, it would be a good idea to consider changing tactics (if the loss of money is what concerns you). Otherwise you can keep posting things that a large cross section of the community will value less than you do and know that it is not going to be censored as it is logged on a blockchain (which is precisely the most powerful aspect of this system).
Love you bro but wholly disagree that you were censored.
And dont forget...if sentiment changes...others will upvote it more over time (you can still get paid from a post for 4 more weeks after the first payout!) and a consensus will be reached. :)
Fuzzy, much respect, but on this one I think your view is going to create problems for this platform for in the future. Mind you , I'm not taking about your view on the quality of DollarVigilantes posts, on that I may somewhat agree. However, I am referring to the fact that fagging is being used as down-voting, and by the whales no less! Please review your stance and consider the future implications of this. It can be disastrous. Very likely to end up like "Reddit with a paycheck". One must ask, if this is the intent, why no down arrow? Be that as it may, I must say that if this is in fact the structure and policy, then I may have indeed been somewhat mistaken regarding my opinion of the genius of the platform.
On another note, will KenCode be on a hang-out anytime soon?
To the folks upvoting this comment, this type of ad hominem (personal attack) has no place on Steemit. Even if you agree with the sentiment, please consider whether this is the type of vibe you want to encourage.
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This is tacky and disrespectful.
I don't think he's a bad person. His intent was to help he was just overwhelmed by success and it came off wrong, this is a well thought assumption of course. I posted close to 1200 post on here and some in which had great content hours to do and even days to complete a short fiction book, and some was fast posts to get a quick point or opinion out.The day come I make 1000 bucks shit I might think I'm steemit rich too lmao! Let's not condemn the dollarV too much, it's the whales who pays us not anyone else. They don't like many others content not just mine, so be cool and do it for the experience:)
is there UP flagging?
Flagging for being a dick.
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You need to take a deep breath and actually read the post, it's sarcasm gold..
I didn't get it!
Why did a post, which is gibberish, get $9?
I retracted the post after it had been voted. See my apology post: https://steemit.com/apology/@venuspcs/dollarvigilante-so-i-have-been-informed-your-last-couple-posts-were-meant-as-satire-apology-inside