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RE: @Weenis: Please shut down your swarm of bots

in #steemit9 years ago (edited)
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Hi weenis, thanks for coming to give your point of view. First off, I don't have any grief with you, and I certainly don't advocate anyone being censored. You're free to do absolutely whatever you want to do, and if you gave all of my posts 100 downvotes, I would still say "do not censor these votes". I'm just asking you to tone down the vote swarms. You mentioned in one of your articles that articles only get trending when they get some whales voting for them, and so what you're doing is not really affecting anything. But that's not completely true. Your vote swarms are affecting both the "hot" and "active" news feeds. Those news feeds take into consideration the number and frequency of votes and comments on posts, seemingly to a greater degree even than the expected payout. So, when you swarm vote for posts with the steem or steemit tags, those posts will appear higher in those feeds, which also has the effect of pushing down other content that has in many cases higher payouts and a lot more (human) upvotes. This gives the posts that you swarm vote for more exposure than they would otherwise get, and it reduces the exposure of posts that would otherwise be more visible.

Again, I'm not telling you to stop, it's beyond my power to stop you anyway. I'm not going to downvote posts that you swarm upvote to balance things out, because that's obviously not fair to any of the authors. And I'm not going to downvote you personally. Heck, I'll upvote both of your comments here, because you pointed me to several of your posts and you have valid concerns worth discussing. I was unaware of censorship on the part of steemit.com with respect to votes. If that is true as you say, that would be quite surprising to me.

Another thing is, I'm trying to understand your strategy, it just doesn't seem to make sense considering the terms of the "game". I've noticed some times when you had already voted ~30 times in the first 2 minutes of a post. That literally doesn't make any sense, because even if that post goes viral, you'll still only get a small percentage of the rewards, and since the steem power for those accounts is fairly low, the rewards will most likely round to zero.

Since the curation rewards are based on stake, it doesn't really make sense to have many accounts UNLESS:

  1. You are trying to spoof the algorithm that determines rank order in the news feeds.
  2. You are trying to spoof other human users into believing that a certain post is going viral, thus tricking them into piling on their votes on top of yours.
  3. You are trying to get a lot of free steem through the sign up process.

All of these are deceptive, and so if you are acting with some of these goals in mind, I would say you probably deserve some of the criticism you are receiving. If you have a legitimate reason for creating many fake accounts, please tell it.

What is your goal or motivation with these bots? The @steemlove and @steemitlove bots you already used to test a flood attack. It seems you might be doing something similar with this swarm, as the votes I've seen have been at 1% which are basically nothing for low-SP accounts. Are you still performing a bloat attack, and if so why?