What happens when we have a million users and the devs hold a tournament with $1000 prize money?
Guys with nothing better to do and a low-mid range deck are going to throw their hat in the ring.
Why not? I could get lucky.
Suddenly we have 100,000 entries and the tournament takes 3 weeks.
There has to be some impediment to keep those with almost zero hope of winning, from entering.
I can appreciate you're disappointed, Dave. Just do yourself a favour and hang onto your cards.
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Judging by the rollout tournament, rounds take about 15 minutes, so a tournament with 100,000 players in it would expect to be finished in about 4.5 hours - far less time than large-scale online poker tournaments take every day. Hell, there's a whole popular US site that never runs tournaments shorter than that. This is not a real problem.
Wow! What an exciting news worthy event.
Is Steem Monsters the future of online Trading Card Games?
Recently, Steem Monsters, a TCG run entirely on the blockchain held a seemless 100,000 player event with a prize pool of only $1000. More surprisingly it went without a hitch thanks to blockchain technology. And even more amazingly it took only 4.5 Hours to complete, whereas a manual run tournament of this size would normally take a solid weekend to run...
Whereas a 32 player high roller $1000 event is hardly remarkable.
Forgive me for chiming in, @mattclarke, and I don't want to impolite or rude, I'm just curious... Are you seriously still buying their BS? After all this time and every promise they broke? After all the things they said, and then just did the opposite?
What's wrong with them? Don't they deserve a chance, even though they don't have the means to spend 10k on a game?
1st round - 100,000
2nd round - 50,000
3rd round - 25,000
4th round - 12,500
5th round - 6,250
6th round - 3,125
7th round - 1,563
8th round - 782
9th round - 390
10th round - 195
11th round - 98
12th round - 50
13th round - 25
14th round - 12
15th round - 6
16th round - 3
How long is all that going to take?
We need people unlikely to win, to weed themselves out beforehand.
Matt, with all due respect because I have the greatest admiration for you, the argument that you have to charge people or else we get 8000 people in the tourneys is ridiculous. Everyone has an elo rating, why not let the diamond guys enter the diamond tourneys and the silver guys enter the silver tourneys. I don't think that is a stretch and would have many benefits (not counting stopping the destruction that this will bring in the number of players that will leave). You said "wait til we hit 100k entries" and I hope to hell that happens. But right now we have to deal with things as they are and they are at less than 500 at most (and shrinking if you are honest about it). I would suggest that they make policies for close to where they are and not where they hope to be, otherwise they will destroy even more confidence if it doesn't materialize.
And thanks for the advice on the cards, I think you mean it. I have admired your strength in holding through the ups and downs and I am very much like you. So you have my total respect and appreciation for your advice! :)
Thanks Dave, for your kind words. Its so easy when we disagree on something, to start flaming the person instead of addressing their argument.
This is an excellent example of the kind of quality conversations and people that are drawn to this place.
Imagine getting to that point with free tournaments, then starting to charge.
They can always reduce or remove that fee down the road; and nobody's going to complain.
I agree about the quality conversation, and thank you too Matt :)
I will be the first guy to be happy for everyone (despite my criticisms here today) if that happens. My concern is that we don't get there if the promises keep being broken. I overlooked many many of the other promises broken and felt they were just a learning curve and gave them the benefit of the doubt. From the KS last minute "80% off" sale that directly benefited Aggy's hand picked insiders (while I spent $1000 to get 50 accts and 50 gold Runts as my perk because I wasn't in the insider club), to the point at which he assured me that they would match the demand and the supply of these Reward cards (then they went 5x over).
I can overlook all that. But charging me to get something that I was already promised (paying to enter a tourney that I PARTIALLY FUNDED to have a chance at the prize), is something that is hard for me to get past. (it feels like part of my money is given away since I will refuse to pay to get something I already paid for). And on top of that, to say that somehow I'm not "serious" if I don't want to pay a fee, is insulting. Remember Matt, not everyone has the time or desire to play all the games everyday, so if I entered the tourney with my gold cards I would probably lose. I don't mind losing, but I sure am not paying to do so (AGAIN).
One last thing, this really screws up the value of the cards, particularly for golds. It has the opposite incentive than they had mentioned in the past. I guess at this point I don't mind that they go lower since they're so cheap, but there will be many that will leave as a result of this (see my feed if you don't believe me).
Obviously its not my decision to make, so we will have to see how it plays out. I will be rooting for you and the guys/gals I've come to know for sure. I have tremendous respect for many in the community and it saddens me that they have taken this turn. But I'll keep my eyes open and be the first one to say great job if they get that viral liftoff :)
I'm with you completely here @simplymike.