Quiet an indepth and ambitious proposal, I think you are already getting a lot of support as it is. Too bad this couldn't be split with more frontends and programmers. I feel like there are many programmers and it professionals working with Steem who just don't have the same clout as you to attract funds and desperately need them just as much.
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Can you elaborate this a bit more? Maybe with some number supporting it?
If they are working on large and useful projects (some samples of project as large as steempeak will be highly appreciated) I don't understand why they don't have the same 'clout' to attract funds.
That said we specified multiple time in the post that everyone should support the projects that add value to Steem ...and this is a subjective matter. So if there are other projects adding value to the platform that deserve more votes I'm are totally ok with it.
Steempeak posts infrequently but gets great upvotes, you could update/post more frequently to get rewards the traditional way. You could also sell advertising on your front end for revenue. Support is more than just numbers although I have noticed some large transfers from Peakmonsters which is really none of my business.
Asking for 25% of the SPS funds or 2.5% of overall newly minted Steem is a bit much for one group of four individuals don't you think?
I agree with supporting great projects and like what you are doing, it's just that the number seems quite high and there are other ways to attract revenue. Rewarding $250/$1000 of overall daily funding for two years to 4 individuals is too much for a blockchain with over 10k creators. Think about all the others here who are doing things too.
Just my opinion, I don't wish to argue.
It's a bit difficult to me to understand the points you mentioned ;)
Are you suggesting to funds steempeak doing frequent posts and getting upvotes? So using the reward pool that should be available for content creators instead of using the proposal pool that has been created exactly for the purpose of funding apps and projects? This make no sense to me and most app that work this way are 'forced' to do this to survive. I think we should do the opposite, use the proposal pool and leave the reward pool available for the real users.
Peakmonsters is a side business we created (and for which we are not submitting proposals) that help Steempeak paying for monthly bills. So basically we are using part of the revenue we generate with another business to provide Steempeak for free to everyone.
Currently we are asking 25% of the SPS funds, but in some months (or a year) it will be much less. Probably under 10%.
If you consider the overall amount, $250 as daily pay for a project with 4 people is really a bargain in my opinion. In US or Europe a software developer can easily get the same for 2-4 hours of work (depend on the specific country). So asking the same amount for the whole team is really really fair in my opinion.
As I already said I totally understand different point of views, and everyone is free to evaluate each proposal and decide how to vote. In the end this is one of the awesome thing about a decentralized system :D
You are doing a great job; maybe one of the most important here, as a good front end is what attracts users. I hope you don't let yourselves be bothered by the usual jealous sulkers!
Are you implying I'm jealous of a private entity campaigning for public subsidies? You're reading me wrong, I simply disagree with the funding a few for-profit individuals amongst 1000s with 1/4th of the current SPS pool.
If you make posts that frequently update users on your progress, or for tutorials and community building users have the option of upvoting them or not. What part of this makes no sense? It is how Steem operates. POB rewards aren't just for creativity, people have the choice to upvote a post or not, it's liberal economics.
I get that developers are paid a decent wage, as are many people in US, Europe, and other countries. That being said you are running a business, business owners don't get paid, they either profit or they don't off of their investment of time and money. If you are working for us, you should get paid, but you are working for yourselves investing your own time and money into your own business.
I see what this is about you are asking us to provide you with a subsidy to limit your risk of earning a future profit. If you need money, sell equity-like everyone else, create a token that represents future earning from your endeavors. I'd buy some.
Lot of projects on the platform are business (esteem, busy, ...) have been funded for years thanks to an huge delegation by steemit that they use to get curation rewards. Also some of them have a witness that is still 'funded' by the Steem community.
But now that we have the SPS probably we should switch to the new pool instead of relying on the old method.
And of course if we have a successful proposal we'll probably start 'burning' or declining most of the rewards we get on our posts as that will not be needed anymore.
And it's true, we are a 'for profit company' (not much profit after almost 2 years of work by the way) but what we've done and most of what we'll do in the future will be available to every user free of charge. Most of our profits will come from 'premium' features, but we still work on a tons of things that will benefit Steem as a whole and not just our own business.
I've already said that I understand your doubts and concerns regarding this proposal, we'll just have to see what the community thinks about it.
I thought you guys had a witness, if not who have I been voting for all this time?
If you do get the proposal accepted any chance of making some of the more visually attractive parts of your front end open-sourced? Many other tribes and front ends could use a boost appearance-wise and your collage of posts is particularly appealing.
A witness outside of the top 20 is barely enough to pay for the server bills :D
We have plans to release parts of the mentioned points as open source so others can use the same material. Not sure about parts of the main website itself, but honestly I don't think there are specific place on steempeak so awesome to be useful to other frontends.
But if there are parts someone is interested in I can probably share a few snippets. I've already done this in the past with other developers who asked for specific fragments of code ;)