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RE: SteemPeak Release - Update v1.11

in #steempeak5 years ago (edited)

Bernie started the bidbot business. He bailed (I think) at least @randowhale isn't around anymore, but he could still be delegating to bidbots. He is morally aligned with bottery. @iflagtrash is one of his bots specifically used to flag people unwilling to pander to his stake.

I ain't panderin'.

As to flagging every bot user, I don't think that's reasonable. I am deeply morally opposed to automated votes of any kind. I think it's actually existentially dangerous as it degrades the sanctity of humanity by equating our judgment with automated processes, and I'm particularly opposed to selling votes. However, some folks need to get the word out in the world we live in, and bots will do that, while wishes, good writing, and hope won't. I've even upvoted posts that have purchased votes for that and similar reason.

The essence of humanity is judgment. Don't reckon we should make blanket statements, or blanket flag. Each circumstance is unique, and the world is what it is. It may be advisable to buy a vote and visibility in the perverse extant system for some reasons. I won't do it no matter what, but I don't have to take my own advice =p

Edit: no one likes being flagged. It's likely that even if people agree with you on some points, they'll object to being flagged anyway, because they see it as costing them money. You're going to be very likely to encounter retaliation sooner or later for flagging bidbot users, and some of them have significant stake. I'm not saying don't do it, but do be aware of the risks.

I submit me as an example of how flag abuse can continue for a long time. Go in for the right reasons, and knowing what to expect. "Be always sure you are right. Then go ahead."--Davy Crockett

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You are right I don’t have the time to do it manually! I found plenty of capable bots open iut there that could do it for me, maybe take the cheetah bot and reprogram a little. Just set a curation trail to reverse flag! I will figure out a way if I set my mind to it! Steemit needs a bud bot flagger bot to balance out the universe!

I can appreciate that the task is beyond one person manually undertaking it. However, when you start autoflagging bidbot customers, the logical response is for bidbots to autoflag you. This doesn't increase human society. In fact the contest is between bots using up resources intended for people to direct society with, rather than actual human engagement.

This is why I am opposed to autovotes. Were no bots involved and folks only curated manually those posts they saw and wanted to discourage from buying votes, it's likely the highest rewarded posts would get hit the most and the hardest (ignoring retaliation potential), and that over time smaller accounts would benefit more and Steem be dispersed more widely, amongst other benefits of manual curation.

Pretty sure if you either start your own flagging trail, or join those as might already exist, you'll be met with retaliation. It'd be poor business for the bidbots not to try to discourage you.