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RE: Weird. Gold down a Lil , silver up for ounce and palladium down big. Weird mix

in #steemsilvergold5 years ago (edited)

True, this is an unusual movement in the price of metals. Bix Weir just released a video touting that, "THIS IS IT!!!" for silver & cryptos (In other words, this is everyones' last chance to secure their assets before the prices go on an upwards tear.).

I'm not yet convinced that this is the BIG MOONSHOT. Gold has gone up about 12 - 13% this year. A similar move in silver, which would indicate that silver is now responding - as it should - to the movement in the price of gold, we'll need to see silver go upwards $3 or $4 and close around $18.50. I've been watching the metals for too long now (about a decade), and have seen these kinds of false moves too often to be fooled by a 40-cent move. That said, this COULD be the start of it - but I seriously doubt it. This is more like a precursor of the big move upwards, a small sign of volatility which is indicating another "crack" in the tight control over the metals markets.

One thing seems pretty sure to me at this point: the big physical stockpile that everybody knows J.P.Morgan is holding in its' vaults - it is holding it for a client. Most likely, that client is the Peoples' Bank of China. Or, that's their largest client - and there may be a couple of others in there as well. I can only hope that the U.S. was smart enough to make a similar move, but I have more faith in the complete and utter stupidity of U.S. politicians than I do in their ability to manage to do anything fiscally responsible.

I would bet on seeing the Gold:Silver ratio go over 100 before seeing it fall back under 50.

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I doubt very much that the Chinese are dumb enough to stack their silver in the USA - or any metal for that matter. For the simple reason that they don't trust the USA (and probably rightly so), but also just to not let anybody know how much they actually own. Same as they do it with their gold reserves.
If they stock pile something, they do this in their own country, where nobody can lay his hands on it.

I had given this some thought. Maybe the biggest bargaining chip that Trump has with China is the possible fact that this could be their silver. The pushback we've heard a lot about is how China is seriously thinking about restricting the trading of rare earth metals with the U.S. Perhaps a trade arrangement, or lack thereof, has something to do with it.

Also, China may well know they'd never get delivery of that silver - but they're using their ability to influence the silver price as another lever to put pressure on the U.S.??? IDK. But, there are some very serious silver experts who believe China is J.P.Morgans' biggest silver client.

Well, I'm not a member of the Chinese central committee, so I also just assume things. But the way I see the Chinese, there is nothing without a purpose what they do. Even more so when it comes to business.
In my view, there is not much that the US can do against China. The worst thing that could happen to the US is, if China actually does what Trump demands - stopping the export of good to the US. That would cause a instant shortage of all kinds of consumer goods and a hefty inflation. Lets face it, all the countries in the western world depend - thanks to globalisation - on the supply with chinese goods. It would take years to build up a inland production again, and after that everything would be much more expensive.
So the leverage we have on China is pretty limited.

I don't know if manufacturing even CAN be forced to return to the USA. However, a bit more of this kind of "trade war" talk, and many countries could start to leave China and move to other countries - other than the U.S. Spreading out Chinas' dominant position of manufacturing and exporting cheap goods would also be one huge way to take China down a notch or two in regards to the US/China trade deficit. Although that would not improve the jobs or manufacturing in the US, sometimes you can only bring somebody else down to your level in order to claim some kind of a victory. Both lose. I've seen some people say that the big winner of this trade war is going to Mexico, and I see some truth to that. Helping out Mexico certainly could, indirectly, help to ease some of the pressure on the situation with illegal immigration on the U.S. southern border.

Well, manufacturing will only return to the US, if it's cheaper than other options. And of course its not only China that is a player in this game. If China gets banned from trading with the US, there are several other "cheap" countries waiting to get a piece of the cake. Mexico can be one of them, but also India, Vietnam, Malaysia and more.
Also it not only western companies who have factories in China or elsewhere, that are the problem. Its the native companies that compete with the western companies, too.
Anyway, what ever they decide, the biggest loser will be the american consumer. If the cheap imported goods disappear from the shops, he will have to pay the higher prices. It certainly wont be the import companies, or Walmart or who ever, who will cover for the tarrifs - it gets passed along to the consumer at the end. And the same result comes from repatriation of the manufacturing.
That would, admittedly, create lots of new jobs. But the pay would need to go up to make ends meet - wich in turn causes prices to rise again. Which requires pay to go up further ect. ect.... And there is the inflation spiral.