The Amateur Mycologist - Random Find - Fomitopsidaceae Family - Possibly Hapalopilus genus, maybe nidulans species (Thanks @fabulousfungi)

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I often find mushrooms just walking around NYC

This cluster of fleshy polypores was just such a find, except a little more awkward than usual because I found them right outside my office.

This is only uncomfortable because it means my interactions with this mushroom all happened while I was in a suit, surrounded by colleagues or clients on the street. Now, I love mushrooms, and even my co-workers know about my delight in fungi. But somehow being seen gaping at a mushroom for half an hour by a client seems less than appealling.

Plus these mushrooms really needed a knife in order to take a look inside, which, of course, I could not have on me when I had occassion to examine this thing.

The result is a less thorough macroscopic breakdown than I usually prefer.

Lets get a closer look.


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Look at that awesome pore structure!

Highly visible pores, almost mesh like ans a light tan brown color. If you can, try to zoom in a little to get a good look. Also, the beautifully smooth light orangish/brown cap on the lower mushroom.

The overall appearance is both somewhat grotesque and malformed taken as a whole, but also weirdly handsome.

Take a look at the top picture as well. See some of the bottom specimens in the cluster? The caps are not all perfectly developed, specifically the fourth and sixth from the top. The pore surface has encroached on the top area where the cap should be.

Let's get a close up, top down.


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There's a lot to break down in this photo

First, the cap is that same light orange/brownish color and smooth wjere it hasn't been disturbed.

Second, there is the round, dark brown circle that appears to be a damaged portion of the cap.

Third, there are a couple of small holes, apparently, which seem to look into a potentially hollow cap. Without a knife, and on my way back and forth from my office in a suit, I wasn't able to pry further into this trait.

Fourth, you can kind of see the fine imprint of two fingerprints on the lower right portion of the cap. Those are my fingerprints after very lightly prodding the cap and finding that it was exceedingly soft and fleshy!

If even a light touch left a mark, what would happen if I pressed harder...


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Whaaaa...?

I took the corner of my cell phone case and just pressed firmly down on the cap with it and this was the result.

The mushroom did not even begin to budge or flex from its position on the tree, however the cap flesh clearly gave in readily to the moderate pressure of the phone.

"Gave in" is sort of an understatement. The cap surface was almost like a thick custard in its fleshiness and filled with moisture. The phone case left a fairly deep indentation in the cap and caused the liquid to show itself in the new crevasse.

By the next day my indentation had also scarred over a dark reddish brown


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The cap as a whole has a more dessicated appearance than it did.

At this point all of the caps were hardening up substantially and becoming dryer in their appearance. However, they could still be easily drawn upon with a little pressure. Take a look.


Finally, take a look a few days later.

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The mushrooms have dried out entirely

The whole cao has darkened, with the damaged portions darkening most of all. Meanwhile, the caos have hardened in an extreme way! When I touched these old guys they were as hard or harder than an old Ganoderma species. All the fleshyness was gone and they could no longer be imprinted upon.


OK, but what kind of mushroom is this?!

Great question. No, really. Any ideas?

All of this was happening on a very dead deciduous tree, and surrounded by other trees all of which were infected with one of the invidious Ganoderma species ravaging public trees in NYC.

But this mushroom is quite obviously NOT in the Ganoderma genus. In fact, this is my first time encountering something quite like this before.

One species that sort of fits the bill was
Ischnoderma resinosum, but it ain't perfect. However, the pores of the mushroom here were never white in my viewing, and the picture of I.resinosum I've seen don't seem to fit the bill: wider caps with a white edge.

However, Kuo's description does encapsulate certain elements of the mushroom, including its habitat, distribution, fleshiness and bruising coloration. It's also possible these were older to begin with, which would explain the darker pores. Also, he describes the cap as sometimes being inconsistent in its formation, or even non existent, which is corroborated by those specimens above where the pore surface has encroached on the top.

Additionally these are stemless and aged into a very tough woody texture, which also meets Kuos description.

However, I.resinosum is also supposed to have droplets of fluid that appear in wet conditions, but I never got to see this mushroom that way. Moreover, looking at pther sources, The photos seem totally off base. Plus the pores seem much much finer than in the mushroom I found.

More broadly, I think this might be in the Fomitopsidaceae family of mushrooms, almost certainly. But beyond that I don't know what this is really. And I don't know of a good polypore key to use either. So I am very open to suggestions on either account.


Edit 1: @fabulousfungi ran the details through a Canadian polypore key and came out to the genus Hapalopilus

Kuo writes about Hapalopilus nidulans, and although his pictures are limited, the description fits. Plus the photos Hapalopilus brings up in a cursory search look very close indeed.


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Photos Are My Own

Information Sources:
[1]Kuo On Ischnoderma resinosum
[2]Wikipedia on Ischnoderma resinosum
[3]Messiah College on Ischnoderma resinosum



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Not a great find considering the conditions of those specimens but very interesting nevertheless.
I agree with your guess, I think those are young and rotten Ischnoderma resinosum mushrooms.
It looks like an annual polypore based on how soft it was when you poked it, so it's not Fomitopsis pinicola (which was my first guess). I also thought Piptoporus betulinus, but it wasn't growing on birch, so that's out too.
Following the key for polypores from "Mushrooms of Ontario and Eastern Canada" by George Barron, which is probably a good proxy for what you find in NY, another potential candidate would be a member of the Hapalopilus genus. But I've never found any, so I wouldn't know.
Anyways, great article man!

Excellent work as always!

Hapalopilus looks super promising. These were never the most perfect specimens, probably suffered abuse from the start on the populace street they were on. But they were also fairly young in the beginning and the traits were shared pretty uniformly amongst all of the mushrooms in the cluster, which makes me think they can be relied on for an ID.

Hapalopilus nidulans looks promising in its description, although Kuos pictures are limited. This is one time I really wish I had tested it with KOH.

This is amazing..I <3 mushrooms. Followed. There are a lot in my neigborhood. I shoud start to take more pictures and post for others.

I also cultivated some Pleurotus Ostreatus, they are delicious. Thank you for this :)

Ohhh yummy- mushroom cultivation is a hell of a lot of fun

Yes it is. I ordered some cultivation boxes. They were cheap compared to the amount of mushrooms it produced. Next time I plan to order just the spores for Pleurotus. I already researched the 'recipe' on how to do it properly and clean.

That's the next step - properly decontaminating and incoculating your own medium - coffee grinds and woods chips are both solid -also you could just do plugs in a solid log of wood!

Yeah :) ..I will do it with wood chips. Boil them before putting them in a bag or a big bottle with holes. Will wash the recipient properly before use. I know about the log solution, but I am not sure about decontaminating it, so I will stay with wood chips. Cheers!

I tried the plugs and did not do a thorough job with waxing the plugs after wards - got a couple of flushes of oysters - but pretty small, and side by side with abhalf dozen othen fungal species ranging from slime molds to other random polypores. Haven't done it again since because I'm lazy :)

Great post, again,! Thank you for what you're doing. Upvoted @ 100% my friend. Keep up the good work.go ahead.we are with you all time.best of luck

Thanks

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Wow, that's cool. Thanks.

good info but I will leave the final picking to the experts

Its very interesting food. mushrooms very helpful for health.