Its really hard to have a debate here.
Anyway, one last comment for me with a short example. And personally I believe that the TCM is an on going medical research in clinical trials all the time~
Arsenic oxide is one of the TCM with different biomedical applications with the long history, so when it applied for FDA approval, it is one of the quickest approved one if i am not mistaken.
(Would it be a example for you, as an on going clinical trial for hundreds of years and was acknowledged by western scientific medical research?)
PS: TCM is more like result orientated, and keeping the good results and experience, instead of scientifically logically development.
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I've put arsenic oxide on my list of stuff to check out thanks. 'Result oriented' is possibly the problem I'm trying to get at, but again, I'll explain what I can in follow up posts (perhaps not the next one since I want to focus on placebo specifically first) since these comments are getting really long. And, I'm sure I'll learn more as I go too!
Ha no worry ~
TCM is somehow like a black box to me.
(oh by the way I was told that neuron network for AI is also like a black box as well, ie: it works but you just dont know why; but I am not and expert on it and thats just what I heard)
You raise an interesting point that "qi", and I and my supervisor have some debate on it and have some interesting view point on it scientifically.
And by the way, in the Chinese doctor, if you get certain kind of diseases, they will tell you "you should eat this and not this this this" and like a long check list; if you dont follow that, you will get worse quickly, and I got a considerable number of friends having the same situation, which actually supersize me.
One of the few examples would be those with rheumatism, eating goose and drink beers would get worse quickly. Everyone with rheumatism agree that.
haha examples pop up from time to time
Anyway ~