Absolutely! Thank you for that invite.
We're in public, right? Do you want to keep it that way, or meet in private?
I've got a spot for that if you'd prefer. (New here, but learning...)
Either way's fine with me.
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Honestly, I wouldn't know. It feels that there is a benefit to the "publicness" (is that even a word?) of the discussion, though a million comments on a single thread does not seem to be the best format. What do you suggest?
Yes, there might be a great benefit for us to have an authentic and critical progressive discussion about what we think and how we feel. It's progressive if we come out with deeper
insights and broader perspectives than we went in. That could be quite instructive to anyone who's interested in that sort of thing.
I'm up for it. Thanks again for your very apparent commitment to communication, yvesoler.
It's my job to produce educational events (moments? discourses? whatever...). Ask me anything, and I'll do my authentic best to describe what I understand and why I understand it. Tell me what you think and I'll respond with my perspectives without judgment, blame, or characterization. The water's fine!
As long as we can refer to the conversation later to point out to others how we learned, any public space will do, right?
Right! Now is your opportunity to produce a new educational event. How shall we organize it, prof?
Well, very cool, yves.
So I requested that you examine your avoidance; avoidance is a very common phenomenon.
Obviously it's often associated with fear. Of course we can justify it cognitively without reference to bad feelings, but feelings and ideas are inextricably intertwined; they're concurrent and interdependent; I'm told that many neural pathways are common to both...
And we're all carrying all our emotions all the time; they never go anywhere but on or under the surface of our consciousness.
So if your avoidance signaled a fear reaction (either conscious or repressed), what might you be afraid of?
I'm harmless, aren't I? If not, please inform me of the danger that I might pose 'cause I'd want to fix it if I could.
If you're not afraid of me, then there's probably something in your history which conflicts with your commitment to communication that you don't want to experience, usually bad feelings and bad thoughts, associated with a concern (euphemism!) that something bad will happen. If that's the case then I'd ask you to identify the feelings, the thoughts and the concerns (introspection/self-examination, essential to metacognition).
The worst difficulties occur when we believe that our bad thoughts are true! If we don't then progress is possible. Bad thoughts and bad feelings make for a bad combination.
We all suffer conflicts.
Again, you can ask me anything.
btw
I believe that your reaction isn't idiosyncratic! You're one of a very few people who have so far been willing to discuss thinking and learning with me.
Thanks again for this conversation.
Mike
It is going to take some time to go through both of these posts. I have a project I need to work on today and class all day tomorrow and the next (grad school), but I will try to get through these as soon as possible. Take the delay as the world interfering in my ability to dedicate the necessary time and not avoidance. This is a long list of topics to chew on for myself and in my understanding of you, therefore I do not want to give you a superficial answer in the interest of speed.
One more thing, I think it would be better to start a new post on this topic, maybe even two: one for my side, the other for yours. Let me have a think on that as well, and will post according. More soon!
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